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Teamvmg ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Feb 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 99 |
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Not only was there a leeward gate, but the start/finish line was to leeward of the gate. The finish was between the boat and the left gate bouy. that meant that the RC had trouble keeping count of laps and finished boats at odd times. Keep the start/fin remote from the course so that the onus is on the sailors to count laps and leave the course to finish. everyone hates going through the start/fin on each windward leg and it means that the RC have to lap count for everyone. i don't think that the fleets are split properly, it should not be on speed but on sailing habits - mixing spinny boats with non-spinny boats on the same busy course causes problems. |
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Nessie ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Feb 07 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 91 |
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the pin-end of the start line was very well laid.
I caught a rudder round it for a good five minutes, and it never moved! |
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Shadowman ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 24 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 34 |
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Just for the record, the overlap was not with club racing which was down by the dam, it was with the medium cats. I thought the gate didn't work that well in splitting the fleet but I think that was because the course was short because of the wind direction
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Scooby_simon ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 02 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2415 |
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I was not on the "fast" course last year as I'd sold the Inter 17 and was doing some comedy Dart 18 sailing.
There was a gate at the leeward mark. My mistake. |
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catmandoo ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 545 |
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definately was a leeward gate and a spreader mark at top of course. with the prevalence of spinnaker cats this is the ideal catamaran course for competive racing with no let ups and is what modern cats are designed for . Don't recollect any serious congestion other than would normally be encountered other than the problems of overlapping course on the Sunday
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pdwarren ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 14 May 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 23 |
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I must be going mad, because I was certain there was a leeward gate last year. One thing that might help is a bit more space between the gate and the start line. A number of times I hit the leeward mark/gate right in the middle of another fleet's start, and was presented with a wall of close hauled, starboard tack boats. Paul |
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gary145 ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Aug 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 116 |
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ok i should have said different classes maybe spitfires and hurricanes sail slightly shorter course, either to windward or leeward? |
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But the thing is in this case there is still a problem, as how do you split the fleets? F18 Hcap is 1.005; Spitfiure 1.035, Hurricane 1.007 / 1.009 and Handicap 1.07 to 0.98ish |
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gary145 ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Aug 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 116 |
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i seem to recall 2 years ago the wind was from a different direction and there was a lot more room. can you just arrange that direction? would 2 leeward marks (one upwind a bit from the other) for different speed boats help? |
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