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    Posted: 21 Jul 07 at 11:44pm
Originally posted by redback

Ah - demo rides - whare can I get one on a Hobbie Tiger?


Best to speak to the Hobie Centre at Poole who are the UK importers and whom I believe have a boat on site available for demo's.

Website www.hobiecatcentre.co.uk or phone 01202 671661

But if you are interested in F18's in general don't forget about the Capricorn or Nacra Infusion.  If you want a demo on a Nacra Infusion then pm me and I will put you in contact with someone who can help.


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Ah - demo rides - whare can I get one on a Hobbie Tiger?
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Oli has signed up for demo rides on Dart 18 & Sprint 15 at Grafham. Doubtless he will let every one know what he thinks once he has had his demo rides.

I agree with Soggy Doggie about the Dart 16. They are a good boat for the holiday trade but they are heavy, hard to right single handed and anyone who is a half decent sailor moves on quickly because there is no circuit & no one to race against. It seems that they have cultivated the family fun sailing niche in the market & nothing else.

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Oli Roberts asks what cat is recommended for someone who wishes to fun-sail. I shouldn't think many people use a hurricane 5.9SX or an F18 for fun sailing, although "Worthy" would probably disagree.

An important consideration before you buy, is your choice of club, if any. Many clubs with limited storage will turn you away, if you rolled up with an H 5.9 or an F18. Their bowsprits are at head-height, and are deemed to be a hazzard to other boat park users.

Dart 18s, and Dart 15s (now called Sprints), don't have bowsprits, and are not a hazzard in the boat park. Both are versatile insofar as they can be sailed solo or two up. Being smaller, the 15 is easier to right after a capsize, and many are used for fun sailing. Co-incidentally, the Dart 18s and the Sprints consistantly achieve the highest number of entries at a nationals. 

Avoid the Dart 16. 



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did he say that ?

i take it to mean that according to handicap the sx is ONLY .002 slower!

whereas on the water the gap should be more


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Are you trying to say an SX is faster than an F18?  A contentious issue you should stay away from if I were you.

From experience I have never been beaten on the water by an SX but then I don't know the standard of sailor I have been up against.  Far too many factors to take into account to make a sweeping statement like that!
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Yep and according to the handicaps the SX is 0.002 slower than a F18. not on the water it ain't...

http://www.schrs.com/index.php?page=ratings
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Originally posted by welshalex

Have you thought of a Spitfire?
Faster than a Hurricane and easier to sail.


You are going to really annoy some hurricane boys by saying that especially as the handicaps don't backup your claim of speed!!
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Have you thought of a Spitfire?
Faster than a Hurricane and easier to sail.
16 ft long makes them nippy and easy to handle on shore. Get hold of the association they will give you a test sail, there are a few well priced ones about at the moment.
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Originally posted by Nessie

i would suggest that a Dart 18 is not more fun than a Hobie 16.

perhaps in light stuff - on a lake.

As a sea boat and with some swell, I would vote for the Hobie 16 every time.
It is also more bullet proof than the Dart.

Very little compares to a Hobie 16 in a real blow.

 

Except a Hurricane !

 

You say "me and dad".

 

How old are you ?

If you are 7-14 age I would suggest a Dart 18 with the option for you to crew now, and then helm later (I was helming a dart 18 with some sucess at 12).

 

If you are 14+ I would suggest a Hurricane as you'll grow into it.  Also, it does depend on how physical your are (and want to be).  The Hurricane is a far more "grunty" boat to make it go fast.  If you are not planning to race, and have the time to grow into a boat and you are willing to learn I would still suggest the Hurricane over the Dart.

 

I owned and sailed a dart from 12 untill I left uni, and then moved up to a Hurricane. 

 

The hurricane is Faster (by a long way), but heavier and more gruny to sail.  But by far a better boat.  I would take a Hurricane 5.9 out in far more wind than a Hobie 16 or a Dart.
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