Righting a 49er

   Having only just started sailing a 49er a couple of months ago, we have found that the crew (normally the heavier out of the 2) stays holding the daggerboard whilst the helm jumps in to the boat and runs to the otherside balencing the boat. The crew who gets very wet slows the rate at which the boat comes up right and acts like a keel. If the boat stays up right then they just come out from under the boat  to the windward side, then tip the boat on top and they get on the wing. 
Alternatively if the boat capsizes again they are already on the daggerboard and the helm can just step on to the board to right it.
It works almost everytime in over 20 knots and all the time in less.
also mega important in the 49er is pulling the jib in when u capsize otherwise you could end up snaping all your battens, you pull the jib in then uncleat it. And do this before you pull the kite in if have capsized with the kite up.

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Skiffman Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Far too distracted from work Joined: 27 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 291	Post Options Post Reply Quote Skiffman Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Righting a 49er Posted: 28 Jan 07 at 10:57pm
	Having only just started sailing a 49er a couple of months ago, we have found that the crew (normally the heavier out of the 2) stays holding the daggerboard whilst the helm jumps in to the boat and runs to the otherside balencing the boat. The crew who gets very wet slows the rate at which the boat comes up right and acts like a keel. If the boat stays up right then they just come out from under the boat to the windward side, then tip the boat on top and they get on the wing. Alternatively if the boat capsizes again they are already on the daggerboard and the helm can just step on to the board to right it. It works almost everytime in over 20 knots and all the time in less. also mega important in the 49er is pulling the jib in when u capsize otherwise you could end up snaping all your battens, you pull the jib in then uncleat it. And do this before you pull the kite in if have capsized with the kite up.
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49erGBR735HSC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991	Post Options Post Reply Quote 49erGBR735HSC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jan 07 at 6:34pm
	No matter how windy it is, using the wind to right the boat, ie push the windward wing up, then rig, is the most effective way to right the 49er. Having the crew scooped whilst the boat is righted, means all control lines etc are let off, they are able to control the helm and you can get back sailing quicker. Granted you have to get in the leeward side, but at least you are working with the wind and not against it to right the boat. Never sent a crew to the front to hold the bow into the wind, too much hassle and never seems to work with the 49er and as the 49er is righted, it naturally screws up into the wind. Key thing is getting both crew and helm ready to sail as quickly as possible as 49ers don't do stationary. Someone has mentioned on the 49er site that they find this method best, and Ian Walker (I think) recommended the method many moons ago in y&y.
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Calum_Reid Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 09 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 59	Post Options Post Reply Quote Calum_Reid Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jan 07 at 12:43am
	the musto guys all haul there cunningham on hard. really hard! helps make the sail loose water easier and takes some power outa it.


Isis Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 01 Sep 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2753	Post Options Post Reply Quote Isis Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jan 07 at 12:36am
	Getting the first person off the board on in front of the mast to balance the boat and run for a trap handle if nessicary while the second person (either getting scooped or also off the board depending on whether you need 2 to right her) scrambles for the tiller and main always makes things easier. It doesnt matter who goes for what as you can swap back once theres some presure in the rig and your not going to fall in again. Kicker off as a few people have said makes a big difference too.

olly_love Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 18 Jan 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1145	Post Options Post Reply Quote olly_love Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jan 07 at 12:18am
	get the kicker off asap and try to swim the bow round. also if the crew goes to the middel of the boat and graps the leward trap wire and grab the tiler and waits for the helm to pull it up( not sure u can do this in a 49er) then when it comes up it slows the rise and u have stearing and the main just twists off. on the 14 first thing we do is to dump the kicker then just run as fast as we can to hit the wires and if it is breezy then we try to get the tiller and controle it just like a water start on aboard
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Black no sugar Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 04 Dec 04 Location: Somewhere between Brighton and Lancing Online Status: Offline Posts: 3941	Post Options Post Reply Quote Black no sugar Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jan 07 at 9:33pm
	Ooooooohhh that's mean... at least, I didn't get wet! Edited by Black no sugar
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	Right the boat with crew or helm submerged by a wing and then right the boat with them on it and then get them to climb up. Meanwhile you get in by the mast and BNS atleast our mast is still in one piece!
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Worthy Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 07 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 511	Post Options Post Reply Quote Worthy Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jan 07 at 6:46pm
	Only sailed a 49er once, and that was in light winds so not sure if this will work or not.... Are you able to use the classic RYA 'scoop' method where the helm rights the boat from half way while the crew is lying in the boat waiting for it to go upright? Then the crew is able to steady the boat while the help gets on? Edit: Sorry Kasey, didn't read your post first Edited by Worthy

owain Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 11 Jun 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 142	Post Options Post Reply Quote owain Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jan 07 at 6:21pm
	ye our main problem was that we would run across the boat between the mast and the jib, but by the time we got across, it was to late, the swell didnt really help either.
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craiggo Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 01 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1810	Post Options Post Reply Quote craiggo Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jan 07 at 6:16pm
	Owain, If you have enough weight to scoop, then follow dennis's instructions. If not, or if you have a lot of tide holding submerged wing under, then get both of you on the board. As the boat comes upright get your crew to step over the gunwhale and run between the mast and the jib leech to balance the boat. If you've brought it up too quick then they may need to run through to the other side and hang onto the shroud. If your quick you can follow into the boat, or if your slow haul yourself in over the wing as it hits the water and get your crew to balance the boat. The only time I ever had a big problem righting her was when I snapped the top mast and came up quicker than I expected !!