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Jalani ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 May 05 Location: Great Britain Online Status: Offline Posts: 164 |
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It's unlikely there'll be anyone from the US on this forum, but have you had a look at the www.catsailor.com F16 forum? There are race results for Blades v F18 on there, or at least links to them. |
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Far too old to still be doing this......
Stealth F16s "White Rhino" GBR527 & "Yeah Baby" GBR538 |
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Gilo ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 09 Jul 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
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Hi, I already have a testrun on a Blade this weekend, I hope I can still manage one on the Stealth. Is there anyone from the States here, were there are already some more Blades sailing, which can provide me with race-results against F18 ? As I said, the only results I find here are from the Swell Spitfire. In Belgium there are no F16, so I will always be racing F18, therefore it's important to me to get them compared. Thanks ! Regards, Gill |
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Scooby_simon ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 02 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2415 |
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They are a formula class. That is the point, you can (to an extent) tailor them to your needs. Means a little bit of £ to make it how you want. But then it is right! |
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gary145 ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Aug 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 116 |
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even the same makes?? Gary |
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Gilo ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 09 Jul 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
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Me again. In the Netherlands there is an importer of Blade cats and a builder. Regards, Gill |
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Gilo ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 09 Jul 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
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Thanks everyone for your help. I'm already organising a test on both cats this weekend. I hope I can manage that. Thanks ! Gill |
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pdwarren ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 14 May 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 23 |
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I think there may also be a second hand Blade for sale in the Netherlands - you should speak to Hans Klok at Catamaranparts and try to get a sail on both boats. Paul |
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Gilo ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 09 Jul 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
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Jalani, Thanks a lot for your information. I found the Spitfire results on their site. They had some good results in the Carnac-race this year, in competition with other F18 cats, which have already proven their qualities to me. I don't really have any experience with other F16 cats in Belgium (execpt Spitfire), that's why I was a little bit suspicious. Gill |
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Jalani ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 May 05 Location: Great Britain Online Status: Offline Posts: 164 |
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Gilo, If a Spitfire is competitive then any F16 is more than competitive. I don't know where you'd find results of Spitfire against F16, but from experience the two are very evenly matched although the F16 is rated faster. I suspect that there is a lot more to come from the F16 platform than has so far been found.... My own Stealth has T-foils and there has been much discussion about the pros/cons on the Catsailor forums - www.catsailor.com If you do a search for T-foil you should find several good threads. The short answer though; no, they don't seem to slow you down at all (well maybe in really light winds >5mph), in fact they speed you up - in heavy wave conditions they keep the boat level upwind so no pitching, and downwind they keep the bows up so strongly that you can power much harder than you'd believe possible. All the F16s sail well one or two-up. It is, after all, the central benefit of the class (a Spitfire isn't competitive one-up) and all the deigns handle both modes very well. I'm probably slightly more competitive two up, but that's just me Formula classes are undoubtedly the way forward, and of those, only the F16 can offer an ultra light platform that can be sailed one or two-up! Price wise, they also give an incredible amount of 'bang for your buck'! |
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Stealth F16s "White Rhino" GBR527 & "Yeah Baby" GBR538 |
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Gilo ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 09 Jul 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
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Hi, Thanks a lot for your reactions in the first place. @ Jalani: There is indeed a Stealth for sale in Holland. The F16 scene isn't very big in Belgium, so I'm looking for a F16 to compete in the C1 class (almost all F18). I know a Spitfire can compete there, can all the other F16 compete also ? Does anyone have any results of Stealth's compared to F18 or Spitfire ? What do you thing about the T-foil rudders ? Doesn't it slow you down too much, and does it really stabilize the boat ? If I read reviews and comments, a spitfire and Stealth seem the only ones sailed by a 2-headded crew often. So I'll take one of those 2 I guess ... ? Thanks for the info. Regards, Gill |
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