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    Posted: 02 Jul 22 at 10:48am
I've used both single string and two string setups for the kite hoist on the same boat. I came to prefer the single string setup. TBH I'm struggling to remember why, but have a vague feeling it was because there was less hassle on the drops.

Saving a little bit of time on the hoist is all very well, but a bad hoist doesn't cost you nearly so much as a drop that goes wrong.
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I have recently re-rigged an RS Vision from scratch. Here is what I did for the Bowsprit
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Below is a diagram of what the twin line system looks like. You have to pull the pole out separately which is connected to a tack line most of the time. Both systems will hold the tack of the kite in the same place if you tie your knots correctly. 

The benefit to the twin is that you can pull the pole out a few seconds early before you're onto your downwind course to hoist the kite saving you a good few meters of rope to pull.


Maybe the 800 used something like this? 



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The Vision manual doesn’t help much but it looks like it should be like this from the RS Quest setup (which matches the sketch):



There looks to be a dedicated eyelet to tie the tack line to. I’ll try using the toe strap eyelet
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Originally posted by ClubRacer

https://imgur.com/a/BBv6ivv

A diagram for the curious. 

This will be the setup for 90% of single line kite systems. It will just differ where the tack line ties off, everything else will be in almost the same position.

The only one I know of which is different is the 400(if converted to single string) which uses a back to back block with the tack line then tied up onto the bow. 
That makes more sense. But it's not what I've used on Musto,or RS800. Not sure about  9ers?
Not sure what the relative merit of combined and separate lines might be, the combined system keeps the tack close(r) to the pole end when the pole is not all the way out. Is that (always?) a good or bad thing I wonder?
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https://imgur.com/a/BBv6ivv

A diagram for the curious. 

This will be the setup for 90% of single line kite systems. It will just differ where the tack line ties off, everything else will be in almost the same position.

The only one I know of which is different is the 400(if converted to single string) which uses a back to back block with the tack line then tied up onto the bow. 


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Tackline and outhaul are different bits of string on this setup.
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I think you'll struggle to get the kite up and down nicely with the pole outhaul/tackline tied off each time. Unless it's like Sea Scouts, where you're tryig to keep 8 people busy in the boat?

The RS800 style system is very easy to use.
same as used on Musto IIRC.
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Originally posted by ClubRacer

The Vision tack line ties off somewhere around the base of the mast. Because we always had tons of issues with poles not running smoothly I tied them off at the toe strap fixing on the port side so you could pull the pole in manually if it decided to not play ball. 


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The Vision tack line ties off somewhere around the base of the mast. Because we always had tons of issues with poles not running smoothly I tied them off at the toe strap fixing on the port side so you could pull the pole in manually if it decided to not play ball. 
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