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    Posted: 07 Apr 22 at 12:11pm
Been on NHS website, being sensible isn't one of the side effects, looks grim
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Can't say covering was, or indeed is, in my arsenal of tricks, I guess because it was so easily broken or used for tactical advantage in windsurfing (free off a little and dive into the biggest header you can find). I accept maybe covering a wing of the course if they look like they maybe headed into lucks way, but all I see is your course being directed by others, which can be wrong more often than it's right. And anyway I can never do it properly so dont' try just make sure I sail the shortest route to the finish and the other guy doesn't, not always possible I agree, but I hate the very act. Ever since a guy dropped his last race at the 1980 Nationals sailed above the line just to sail his nearest competitor down the fleet in order to secure a third place, a typical RYA sqauddie indeed went on to become a National Coach, everything bad about sailing conatined in just that manouevre, no place for it in Windsurfing I felt at the time.
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The only mod I would make is "Cover up the last beat" - I often regret not doing so

From what I recall, it was not unknown for you to cover some of us up the first beat, back in the day

Harsh but fair ... times change
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It's true, there's something else now really wrong with me, Covid has totally killed my sense of humour, haven't had a laugh or more important a drink in two weeks, things are getting desperate.

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It's true, there's something really wrong with me, Covid has totally killed my sense of humour, haven't had a laugh or more important a drink in two weeks, things are getting desperate.
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Originally posted by davidyacht

 

The only mod I would make is "Cover up the last beat" - I often regret not doing so

From what I recall, it was not unknown for you to cover some of us up the first beat, back in the day
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He is ill with Covid, so could be normal service when he is better
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See, iGRF can talk sense when he wants to. 
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Originally posted by iGRF

At our level victorys are more often gained by the mistakes of others imv. I can't sail a dinghy for sh1t, in my mind I'm the slowest (and usually the oldest) out there, but I know stuff, I see stuff others don't and when they drop the ball which they always do, I sometimes do very well. When it's very windy not so much.

So I think speed around a course is in your head, occasionally I might fix the slot flushers and get a bit of an extra turn of boat speed.

But it's more down to.

Things I know.

The start is 60% of the race
Always take the tack that's taking you closest to the mark.
Always wave a port hander across rather than have him sit off your lee bow approaching a mark.
Always take the tack that'll have the tide favouring your wind pressure in the early stages of a race.
Always 'work' S 'surfs' in waves (harden along the trough bear off when the stern lifts)
Never engage in covering duals
Never enage in luffing matches on reaches
Know everyone else does and sail low on 1st reach, high on second.
Always get your line transits
Always get your mark 'best angle' transits
Don't always tack on headers if the opposite tack takes you further from the mark
Always have your head (and shoulders) out of the boat looking for..
Wind, Current, Venturi, Shadow, Obstructions, Weed,

It goes on, and on, so many tricks, it's such a great sport, you win it with your head more than your fitness or the sad beat up hulk you use.

 
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The only mod I would make is "Cover up the last beat" - I often regret not doing so


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On the Solos, the old Winders, Speeds and Boons are all the same underwater shape as their modern counterparts, and I am pretty sure that they retain their stiffness.  Assuming that the Solos that you are looking at have not been trashed or abused, and knowing that you can tidy up the foils, I would concentrate an making sure that you have a rig that is suited to you (your weight) and where you are sailing.  

The D+ has been mast of choice for the past few years and makes quite a big difference to performance across the range.  The Cumulus was the previous mast of choice but is hard work in a blow.  Also sight down the mast track when buying since quite a few get bent.  If you don't get a decent sail with the boat, most of the "hot shots" will be happy to sell you a decent sail for a lot less than a new one.
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