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Sam.Spoons 
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 Topic: Solo - why Winder?Posted: 15 Sep 20 at 7:41pm |
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It's probably 'cos people will buy a winning boat, if you win enough you become a safe bet in the eyes of the average sailor.
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Posted: 15 Sep 20 at 7:13pm |
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But are they really any better than an Ovi or BY@B? I’m sure they make the buying experience pleasant too.
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Paramedic
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Posted: 15 Sep 20 at 7:09pm |
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1a is a mk1 with a new deck mould. Hull is the same.
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jeffers
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Posted: 15 Sep 20 at 6:30pm |
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Winder seems to be the boat of choice. I seem to recall the P&B Solos are Winder ones fitted out by P&B, I could be wrong though.
Winder have 3 models, Mk1, Mk1a and Mk2 which give a bit of something for everyone.A guy at our club had a 1a and really couldnt get on with it so he now has a 2 which he loves.
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 15 Sep 20 at 5:57pm |
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I suppose the differences between boats are relatively small compared with the differences between sailors. I'll bet if the three front guys in a decent club fleet swapped boats with the three at the back their positions would not change.
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ian.r.mcdonald
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Posted: 15 Sep 20 at 5:45pm |
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I bought a new grp composite Solo ( last century)
I was unhappy with it, it was slow. Jim Hunt offered to help and I took it for him to sail in a very competitive club fleet. He won both races. And he hadn't made any changes. I wonder how? And yes, the wooden double floor ones are way faster! Edited by ian.r.mcdonald - 15 Sep 20 at 5:46pm |
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Posted: 15 Sep 20 at 12:44pm |
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I had quite a nice looking GRP composite Solo a few years back and my experience was also that it wasn't a quick boat. A pal of mine had a half decent wooden boat of similar age and value and it was way quicker, so I agree with Sam.
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 15 Sep 20 at 11:18am |
Older GRP solos have a reputation for being soft/flexible/not stiff but overweight and the joints between the tanks and hull are often weak or failing. Basically, before the introduction of FRP fibreglass was a poor material to build boats designed for plywood. GRP works well with 3D curves but not with large flat panels. If you want a cheap, competitive (well, fairly competitive at club level), old Solo then a good wooden boat is the only way to go.
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turnturtle
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Posted: 15 Sep 20 at 11:15am |
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they are lovely guys to deal with... it feels like a proper piece of craftmanship when you pick one up.
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GarethT
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Posted: 15 Sep 20 at 11:00am |
Makes sense. Europe class could definitely do with a pipeline of good used boats like that. |
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