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Steve Middleton ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 10 Oct 19 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5 |
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A good one at the windward mark in a decent fleet (Port Rounding). The safe thing to do is get out to the stbd tack lay line early and join the queue stacking out way above the lay line. It's huge risk in a big fleet if you aren't in the first 10 or so boats. But taking a stbd tack a few boat lengths under the lay line, tack onto port 50 yds or so short of the mark, you can often just tack into the gap left by those that have overstood. This has gone horribly wrong a few times (having to bear away behind 20-30 stbd tackers). But for me, it's paid off more times than not. In todays reduced fleets, defo worth the risk.
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ColPrice2002 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 25 Nov 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 222 |
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On Sunday we had a good example of leeward mark tactics:-
Bunch of singlehanded running to the mark (starboard rounding) in light airs. A 200 decided to keep the kit up and round well outside, I slowed down (being outside the group). As the group rounded, they all drifted downwind of the mark leaving me a nice gap. Quick reach into the gap,harden up and I'm level with them and to windward. Moral:- don't get caught in a raft around the leeward mark.. Colin |
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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Just shout 'Mast Abeam' I am told FF sailors love that, might make them spit their pipes out though.
On topic, I will often 'give up' on a fight down to the leeward mark, slowing and grabbing the inside line can pay handsomely (just be prepared for it not to). |
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Mike Holt ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 09 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 58 |
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All things being even, keep yourself to the "left" approaching a leeward mark, be on the inside and/or coming in on starboard. Control boat speed and be in charge at the mark.
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tink ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Jan 16 Location: North Hants Online Status: Offline Posts: 789 |
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After the sausage silliness starting to get practical
Leeward mark specifically, I loose loads there. Generally a couple of boats ahead off and have a luffing match, I sail the best VMG to the mark, some guy will be off to the left. We all meet at the mark and, I don’t want to hit anyone and can’t figure tactics and equate the situation to the rules and end up rounding last
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Tink
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Get good at getting onto the wind quickly (or actually pinching like hell if needs be) to stop boats just behind you from getting their noses in as you start the upwind leg. Force them to go to leeward into your crappy wind.
Conversely, if you are the boat which is being stuffed, tack. |
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davidyacht ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1345 |
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Easy to do in the rarified atmosphere at the front of the fleet, less easy down with the luffers and stuffers ... particularly since I don't believe "wide in" is now considered to be proper mark room ... though I will bow to JimC or Brass should they correct me!
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Happily living in the past
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Mike Holt ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 09 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 58 |
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In wide, out tight.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6661 |
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Just take clear and obvious avoiding action and protest. No need to bash carbon.
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H2 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jul 17 Online Status: Offline Posts: 750 |
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Which sounds lovely but when you are in a carbon H2 up against a 20 year old FF and you know you can win protest and then send your boat off to be repaired!
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H2 #115 (sold)
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