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    Posted: 18 Nov 19 at 9:37pm
Originally posted by eric_c

Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

I experienced similar on Bala, two Div 1 Windsurfers, 30 yards apart, sailing exactly the same course upwind on opposite tacks.


Since they pump their way up wind, when it's calm, it's their choice which tack to be on?

Either that or one was 'leebowing' with some sort of divide by zero (tide) error?
Makes as much sense as anything else on that subject.... Dead

Must have been the lee bow effect then  Big smile

I was one of the two boards and there was enough wind not to need to pump. And, anyway, back then pumping was illegal even on windsurfers. Later on, if there was no wind, on Raceboards we'd just pump 'dead downwind' in any direction, I reckon I could make 2 or 3 knots in a flat calm*.

* Coming from a dinghy background I was fiercely opposed to legalising pumping on windsurfers but when it became a 'fait accompli' I just learned how to do it (and got quite good at it too).


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Of course tidal gates can allow fast boats to get past points where slow boats can simply not get past!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Nov 19 at 7:34pm
In terms of improving accuracy of tidal yardstick, I'd have thought a combination of varying tidal venues will be more accurate than having non tidal venues still in there. For inland venues, removal of tides will also be more accurate, even looking at Rutland and Shearwater, judging by the comments on this thread.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote eric_c Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Nov 19 at 7:22pm
Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

I experienced similar on Bala, two Div 1 Windsurfers, 30 yards apart, sailing exactly the same course upwind on opposite tacks.


Since they pump their way up wind, when it's calm, it's their choice which tack to be on?

Either that or one was 'leebowing' with some sort of divide by zero (tide) error?
Makes as much sense as anything else on that subject.... Dead
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tink Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Nov 19 at 7:14pm
When I win the lottery I am going to fly 100s of drones over the lake with sensors and analyse the wind for a few weeks. 

Or perhaps move to some tropical island..... Obviously somewhere without tides  Wink


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sam.Spoons Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Nov 19 at 6:47pm
I experienced similar on Bala, two Div 1 Windsurfers, 30 yards apart, sailing exactly the same course upwind on opposite tacks.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tink Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Nov 19 at 6:36pm
Actually at Ullswater off the point between Sharrow bay and the club
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ohFFsake Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Nov 19 at 6:32pm
Originally posted by tink

Ah but have you ever seen symmetrical spinnakers perfectly set on a dead run

on two boat less the 50 foot apart

on reciprocal courses
Haha yes - used to happen a lot at South Windermere.

Not so much since I moved to Ullswater where the wind is "steady"  LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tink Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Nov 19 at 6:25pm
Ah but have you ever seen symmetrical spinnakers perfectly set on a dead run

on two boat less the 50 foot apart

on reciprocal courses



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