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    Posted: 10 Oct 19 at 5:54pm
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Love the CAD cardboard aided design. Best smile this morning

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Love the CAD cardboard aided design. Best smile this morning
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Originally posted by Rupert

Cardboard. Start with a cornflake box model of what you have in mind. Then make a dozen more until you get the shape you want.

can't beat a bit of cardboard aided  design 


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I built a Cherub to Clive Everest's design and it  was built from a mix of water jet cut prepreg carbon panels and waterjet cut foam panels. There is a thread with loads of pictures on the Cherub forum. http://www.uk-cherub.org/forum/index.php/topic,2325.0.html

The hull plug was made with lots of small chines all CNC cut out and fitted onto matched frames. For the hull a foam sheet was cut into shapes that fit all the flat chines on the plug so lots and lots of long triangles. The inner skin was laminated, then foam attached. The corners were sanded back to give a smooth outside shape and the outer skin laminated.

All the interior frames the spine and the deck sections were waterjet cut prepreg foam carbon panels. There was a bit of bending and twisting to get them to fit but they are generally quite flat.

If you were to make the whole thing out of prepreg panels then I think the amount of curvature in something like a fireball hull or some sort of streached 3.7 hull would probably be feasible but I would want to put some thought into how to hold the panels to shape while the taped seams dried.  The kind of wire stitching you would do with a ply stitch and glue would probably not work


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I'm minded that making models boats is a bit Doug Lord isn't it?

However I have fashioned a couple of paper proof of concept 'things', which I'm not sure even admitting to is cool.

It led to a boat that was made, there are many other characteristics that make you Doug Lord other than modelling 
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I'm minded that making models boats is a bit Doug Lord isn't it?

However I have fashioned a couple of paper proof of concept 'things', which I'm not sure even admitting to is cool.
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Cardboard. Start with a cornflake box model of what you have in mind. Then make a dozen more until you get the shape you want.

Plasticard from model shops, can make the boat float and ballast down with plasticine. Draw it in delft ship and it will give you the panels etc 



I'd forgotten this stuff! For years as a kid I'd make toy sailing boats from it, if I wanted something lighter than carving balsa wood. It's still available, then? You could get different thicknesses, too.


I went to a good model shop. But sure the net has some. The design above was a light weight car top touring boat with oars. Hence stern design, did have a sail also. Eventually ended up a Canoe which was modelled the same way and built.
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Wow, no sails, must be Lee bowing it.


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Wow, no sails, must be Lee bowing it.
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