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    Posted: 22 Sep 19 at 7:11am
We seem to have the problem of not getting round to selling the boats - currently have around 18 I think - we wrote out a list at the sailing club a couple of weeks ago.
Merlins (pre amalgamation)
Merlin Rockets
Larks
Albacores
Bobbin
Firefly
Zoom
Laser
59er
plus two Zodiac inflatables
and I'm sure there's one I've forgotten to count!

Edit - forgotten boat was the Firefly!


Edited by patj - 22 Sep 19 at 7:55am
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Oh damn, that reminded me I'd forgotten my own Flying 15.
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Might have left some off but think this is most of them, lost count of Finns and ICs.
  • Puffin
  • OK
  • Flare 25 - Westall design, so a large 505 with a Warwick Collins Tandem Wing Keel
  • Flying 15
  • ToY
  • Pegasus
  • Hobie 16
  • IC
  • Spearhead (the all Kevlar one with the retrousee stern)
  • IC 
  • Flying 15
  • Laser
  • IC (Uffa Fox)
  • B Class Canoe (registered as an IC) - still got this one
  • IC
  • Tideway
  • Solo
  • Finn (Fairey)
  • Finn (Taylor)
  • Illusion 2
  • Finn (Vanguard)
  • Finn (Raudeschl)
  • Finn (Pata)
  • Megabyte
  • HiT
  • Phantom
  • Harrier + (current)
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Originally posted by JimC

And after that people worked out that there was no need for a separate space frame, all you need to do was put the structure in the boat where it needs to be. With hindsight its amazing it took us all so long to figure out something so bleedin' obvious.
Yes, after all, they'd made the same leap to monocoques in F1 in the early 60s, which makes you wonder why the space frame was later introduced into boats...

Could be because a metal frame won't creep when left under load, whereas a plastic hull will slowly bend.
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And after that people worked out that there was no need for a separate space frame, all you need to do was put the structure in the boat where it needs to be. With hindsight its amazing it took us all so long to figure out something so bleedin' obvious.
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Posts: 399 		Post Options Post Options   Quote CT249 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Sep 19 at 4:23am
Both the Spearheads look good, but contrary to the implications from the designer the British one wasn't the first "space frame" boat. Offshore yachts like the famous "Imp" had been using them since 1976/77, and they were in 18s and 12s in the late '70s. By 1981 some of the 18s were using carbon space frames, which is the sort of thing you can do when someone hands you 75,000 pounds (in today's money) for one season's sailing.
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Posts: 742 		Post Options Post Options   Quote rb_stretch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Sep 19 at 9:37pm
Yep, our Spearhead had the spaceframe and rotating mast. We did suffer some delamination, probably due to the light build the spaceframe allowed.

Was a very quick boat, that i recall rated quicker than a 505.


Edited by rb_stretch - 15 Sep 19 at 9:38pm
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Posts: 356 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Dougaldog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Sep 19 at 5:26pm
Be in no doubt, those cold moulded SA boats had the potential to be very quick with those who sailed them rating them highly.  However, the 5o5 was already established out  in the 'dark continent' and as I've researched the 5o5 story for the book, I've been surprised how strong the class was out there, SA, Rhodesia and other old colonial countries. Also interestingly, the Contender was also strong in the same locations.....

The other Spearhead, the late 1970s performance two-man boat, was  so put it mildly, an interesting proposition. There was talk of a project to 'sort' the rig that I was going to be a part of but then after the whole backing for the boat went up in smoke (literally!!) we did other things. But I could  see the potential for the boat, in light airs, inland....yes, it could have been quick. But a single hander - sorry no, not that I'm aware of.

The space frame also needed some sorting but it is easy to forget how difficult it was back then to lock in the hull stiffness, as was proved by the 470s as this was the time when you could all but destroy a hull in a couple of events with excessive rig tension.

Bullet is a BIG story for a small boat but it was not the first to be using flooding side tanks!

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Originally posted by Old bloke

Tink, hopefully RB will tell us which Spearhead he sailed, I assumed it was the "improvement"on the 505 with a spaceframe for the rig. Mr Google tells me there was a South African cold moulded trapeze boat also.I cant find a s/h one but you may well know better
Not sure where S/H came from I think it was only double handed
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Posts: 121 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Old bloke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Sep 19 at 5:07pm
Tink, hopefully RB will tell us which Spearhead he sailed, I assumed it was the "improvement"on the 505 with a spaceframe for the rig. Mr Google tells me there was a South African cold moulded trapeze boat also.I cant find a s/h one but you may well know better
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