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Brass ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 24 Mar 08 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 1151 |
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When you were 5 boat lengths from the mark, were the boats overlapped?
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Sapspec8650 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 15 Jul 19 Online Status: Offline Posts: 15 |
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OK -- I made to gybe when he called 'Windward boat' I figured that if I completed my gybe he would t-bone me at the mark - so I hardened up--spilled - then bore away hard to gybe and cross his transom as he rounded -- simples!
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6661 |
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There's no need for a hail (although it can help clarify things). If you are clear ahead at the zone you are entitled to mark room no matter what.
The way the rules are worded is that the actions of a ROW boat are *limited* by part B and part C rules. I sill don't really understand, though, how you could be clear ahead at the zone, and yet the boat behind suddenly gets into a position where you can gybe behind him. |
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Sapspec8650 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 15 Jul 19 Online Status: Offline Posts: 15 |
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Thanks indeed your contributions. I am now reassured that a new rule hasn't sneaked up on me.
However - just to confirm -- My hail of 'clear ahead -- no room' at the zone requires the other boat to give me mark room and that rule outranks port/starboard .. windward/leeward in the zone?
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3400 |
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Assuming the OP was in the right, exoneration is small compensation for being rammed amidships.......
Edited by Sam.Spoons - 17 Jul 19 at 9:12am |
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Brass ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 24 Mar 08 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 1151 |
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ohFFsake ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 04 Sep 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 219 |
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Perhaps he is working his way through the rule book in order, and has yet to encounter rule 18 |
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3400 |
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Sounds like a little knowledge of the rules being a 'dangerous thing' in the case of your opponent. I suspect he has recently learned the W/L and P/S still apply in the zone but not that they don't override mark room.......
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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If you were clear ahead when the closest boat reached the zone then the boat clear astern shall give Mark Room. Rule 18.2b, c and the definition of Mark Room cover this.
The W/L rule does still apply but the Leewards boats actions are restricted by the requirement for them to give you Mark Room.
However if there was doubt about the overlap or lack of it then be aware of 18.2e:
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laser193713 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 13 May 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 889 |
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Brass, 18.4 doesn't apply because the boats are not overlapped. The OP says that he was clear ahead.
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