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    Posted: 24 Feb 19 at 6:25pm
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Ah, got you!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Feb 19 at 4:30pm
Originally posted by Peaky

Originally posted by mozzy

Scrap the joining fee, give renewals a £50 discount. Put fees up by £50. 

That’s £50 every year though, rather than a one off £50?

Yup, 50 off a 50 inflated price every year is exactly the same as it was before. But instead of calling it an extra penalty fee for new members it's a discount for timely renewals. 

I don't think joining fees are a bad thing to help retain members and keep them paying subs on time. But they do come across as a penalty to entrants which isn't really the point.  
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Sub plus joining fee is less than most club's annual subs. Mine is around £230 at present and, AFAIK, even the cheapest clubs around here have subs that are well over £100.
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Our single membership is £60. Thanks for all the comments. I shall direct to exec committee to this thread.
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£50 is more than our Full membership fee  Tongue
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Posts: 305 		Post Options Post Options   Quote DiscoBall Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Feb 19 at 11:43am
Originally posted by The Moo

but if the deal is really sweet for newbies to give sailing a try, they might not hang around for long if they find that it is not all they thought it might be.....


Indeed, how dare people try new things when they are not already 100% sure in advance that they will like it...  LOL 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Feb 19 at 9:56am
Originally posted by mozzy

Scrap the joining fee, give renewals a £50 discount. Put fees up by £50. 

That’s £50 every year though, rather than a one off £50?
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Posts: 822 		Post Options Post Options   Quote PeterG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Feb 19 at 9:31am
The main justification for joining fees is that's it's a penalty that can be used with people who fail to renew when they should and then turn up 6 months later expecting to be able to pay the basic rate. So you can say, sorry you're no longer a member you need to rejoin, that'll be £50 please.

A better solution is probably to do a modified version of mossy's idea, and give a discount to those who renew on time, and not to those who renew late.
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Posts: 1345 		Post Options Post Options   Quote davidyacht Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Feb 19 at 9:09am
I suspect that joining fees belong to today much like black balling did, to a time when clubs were elusive and exclusive.  The only valid reason for retaining them is possibly that the additional investment is a disincentive for not renewing ... however £ 50 compared with the typical club annual subscription is neither here nor there.  
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