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    Posted: 05 Sep 18 at 8:44am
Originally posted by EagleEyeEmpire

My club has a couple of phantoms, a few D-zeros and a few contenders. Not looking to spend more than 3000

If you can stretch to around £3.5k there are early D-Zeros going for that now and it would give you others boats to directly race against.

Otherwise you should be able to get an epoxy Phantom for around £3k just make sure you have the correct stiffness mast and cut of sail.
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I'd find an early vandercraft phantom. Should easily be in budget
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I sailed  a vareo at a river club, it was hopeless - hard work and ineffective upwind, the kite isnt really big enough to get it going downwind. Not an unpleasant boat to sail, but I don't think handicap racing is what its for - whizzing backwards and forwards at the beach on holiday suits it much better
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I think the big issue for you with the Vareo will be its really bad pointing, we have had a few at our club and nobody can make them point. For you on a narrow river getting spat below Phantoms and other boats of a start line will be a real problem. Downwind the kite wont be as usable as you think.
Agree with others a Phantom would be good but I am biast so you ought to consider Supernova, Solo, OK or possible a Laser.
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I’d look at the Phantom at a smaller club tbh - a Vareo needs a good stretchy run or broad reach to get the kite to pay

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Goosewinging a Vareo kite works surprisingly well, but I'd still not buy one for that purpose.
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Narrow river or wide open estuary? If narrow you would be much better without a trapeze or spinnaker, both make it much harder to sail to the handicap on confined waters. Phantom would be a good choice and you could get a modern(ish) boat with a carbon rig for around your budget.

Also bare in mind assy spinnakers don't go dead downwind (Sym kites do but no singlehander has one) and trapeze is not usable on a run either. Since the PN will take into account both you will struggle to sail to handicap.


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I sail on a river so each race   we do normally has equal time up and down wind
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Where do you sail? Any boat with a spinnaker is going to struggle to sail to it's handicap on a small lake, the Vario in particular as it is reputed to be not so fast upwind. 
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My club has a couple of phantoms, a few D-zeros and a few contenders. Not looking to spend more than 3000
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