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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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But they are not bad boats, they are just unsuitable boats. Nobody is suggesting you send a novice out in a foiling Moth and expect them to sail it.
TBH take a young novice out in an Ent on a F2 day and they'll see sailing as boring, put your wife in the same boat in F6 and she'll decide it's too scary. Common sense is required people. But it's not the boat that puts them off.
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H2 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jul 17 Online Status: Offline Posts: 750 |
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Yes teaching my newly married wife to sail in a Laser4000 was in fact a really dumb idea. And now I sail a singlehander.
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maxibuddah ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1760 |
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You get a novice in a tippy boat in the first few goes and I bet you it will put them off completely, unless they are thrill seeker types who like a roller coaster or two
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Everything I say is my opinion, honest
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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This it right to a point, but, there are very few truly bad boats, especially from a total novices POV. They are far more likely to be put off by the people or the environment.
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maxibuddah ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1760 |
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Probably nothing, I think it is the idea that needs to be sold not the boat, however the boat can certainly put them off once they attend.
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Everything I say is my opinion, honest
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RossV ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Oct 18 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 16 |
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The whole family is now interested in the sport. The next task, to get them participating, along with their son, in the boat he built. |
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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Biggest single issue for dinghy sailing in UK is non sailors perception that sailing is expensive and participants are snooty.
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Oli ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1020 |
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One possible solution right there Mozzy, why the need to get wet in the first instance when introducing someone to sailing? Why go through the expense of purchasing a boat or indeed time building one? The next generation are more likely to be able to program better VR games and learn to sail and race virtually. Question is will they? Maybe, depends on the challenge:reward presented. Then we may see actual uptake in the real world. Wonder what the stats are from the likes of the VVOR of sailors:non-sailor and what the take up is of those non-sailors into the sport?
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Well, going back to 3d printing... Flow modelling software and CAD are more likely to be skills the younger generation can utilise than the basic woodwork of the post war era. Younger generations are much less likely to have a garage to build something in, but they're much more likely to have access to decent computing power. Half the problem is that the technology we're using to make boats can't be replicated in peoples garages, but also that most young people don't have garages or time to spend in them. Until people feel they can really engage themselves in a design and construction race, then I think SMODs have a very important place in the sport.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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I honestly don't think new classes will make much difference to people joining the sport. Yeah, one can dream about the boat made out of unobtanium that will cost half of what current boats do, be stiffer and nicer to sail that the most sophisticated epoxy/carbon build, and as capable as any current boat both as a singlehander and racing with a crew of three, but its not going to happen any time soon...
To my mind the big challenge for sailing popularity is the dilettante/bucket list mentality which militates against any sport you have to put serious effort in to get much fun out of, but there's nothing we can do about that. Times will change sooner or later anyway. |
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