Mark Rounding

Sorry Guys I have been away so my response is a bit late!!! 

The Mirror was coming to the mark on a reach on port tack. The mark she was about to round was the port end of the line. The Tasar was on port approaching the same mark on port about to start. The mark was therefore a mark of the course and one end of the start line.

Hope this clarifies the situation, and yes it was not a very clever course to set !

I would agree with Jim C regarding the mirror being allowed to call water, but would the Taser be allowed to call for water for the mirror if there are other boats to leeward. The Taser would nolonger asking for water on the start mark, not allowed under 18.1(a), but now needs water to pass an obstruction, the mirror. 

Edited by john.d.knight

Originally posted by JimC Lets look at the rules. By askling for water Mirror wants rule 18 to apply. Does it? 18.1 When This Rule Applies Rule 18 applies when boats are about to round or pass a mark they are required to leave on the same side, or an obstruction on the same side, until they have passed it. However, it does not apply (a) at a starting mark surrounded by navigable water or at its anchor line from the time the boats are approaching them to start until they have passed them, or (b) while the boats are on opposite tacks, either on a beat to windward or when the proper course for one of them, but not both, to round or pass the mark or obstruction is to tack. OK, well 18.1a says when the boatS plural are approaching to start. Mirror is not approaching to start so I would say that rule 18 applies and therefore Mirror is entitled to room.

Possibly, but I was wondering whether 18.1b applied. Mirror is described as being about to round a mark to port, so presumably is on starboard, while the Tasar is on port. However the description isn't clear enough to be sure. That's why I asked for clarification but the OP seems to have gone away.

 

Originally posted by Isis Im pretty sure redders means that one end of the start line is also a mark of the course. Boat A is rounding that mark when racing. Boat B is cutting close to that mark in a starting situation, who has rights?

Yes I gathered that much as well but I can't visualise the situation precisely from the description.

If they were on the same lap the Mirror would have water.

If they were both starting then the Taser would have right of way.

In this case I don't know ... daft race officer - should have made the course bigger to make sure they got all classes off before the first starter lapped.

Rick