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    Posted: 14 May 18 at 3:04pm
Originally posted by fab100





Now if sailing is changing its equipment, I think cycling should innovate too


That picture should be captioned "if sailing were cycling...
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Now if sailing is changing its equipment, I think cycling should innovate too
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Originally posted by DiscoBall

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I think the new Olympic format is dubious, but really the petition seems more about one gravy train defending it's turf from another.


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Originally posted by DiscoBall

Did the BMC create the growth in indoor climbing 


On the competition side, yes.


And the competition side accounts for how much of the sport?

Everyone and their dog appears to go indoor climbing these days but I've never met anyone who does it competitively. So, assuming the BMC didn't invent indoor climbing, I'd suggest that they feeding off the success of a recreational boom that had little to do with them.

Ditto British Canoeing now crowing about being the biggest watersport as though they had some hand in it, when they've spent years trying to pretend SUP and SOT kayaks didn't exist...

I think the new Olympic format is dubious, but really the petition seems more about one gravy train defending it's turf from another.
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Originally posted by DiscoBall

Did the BMC create the growth in indoor climbing 

On the competition side, yes.
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Originally posted by 423zero

Yes brilliant and the SUPers can use their paddle like a gladiators pugel stick
I’d take that refinement
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Originally posted by blueboy

That is 100% wrong in the case of climbing. There's huge attention right now on what the BMC (the "governing body") needs to do to continue to get Sport England funding and whether the structural changes required are worth the £££ that might accrue. The growth of indoor climbing is exactly what is driving that debate. 

Did the BMC create the growth in indoor climbing or are they just scrabbling to 'manage' something that has grown from grassroots? And that growth still didn't need an Olympic event to 'inspire' it...

 
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Yes brilliant and the SUPers can use their paddle like a gladiators pugel stick
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Originally posted by fab100

I think SUP has a place within sailing in the Olympics; the SUPers have to paddle from one mark to another, the sailors plane past, their objective to knock them over like skittles with their booms (or anything else). Once off the SUP, they are out. Sailors get time benefits for every skittled SUPer. The un-skittled SUPers who first gets to their target mark wins his event,
Now if that is not telly-friendly - and encouraging of people sailing, I don't know what is.


Well I found that funny... 😜

I’m also sure that in some corner of the internet there are a group of SUP riders planning their assault on the canoeing medals, but as someone who has just got 3 sessions in this week, I can assure you the last thing I’d want is to have this sport/pastime ruined by the bloody olympics.
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Originally posted by Chris 249

Originally posted by Strangler

www.canadianyachting.ca/news-and-events/current/4470-opinion-paul-henderson-oly-world-sailing-has-it-wrong

"Under some perceived cloud of the IOC removing the sport from the Games (which cannot happen – sailing is enshrined permanently)..."

Can anyone explain this fundamental statement?

He may be referring to the fact that the IOC's Olympic Programme Commission is not, as often inferred, driven only by ratings and what's kool wiv yoof. There's some 70+ criteria that are used to choose sports, and history alone (which is one place where sailing scores well) are just about as important as media, for example. If I recall correctly, the OPC gives a lot of credence to whether a sport was in the Games from the start, which sailing was meant to be - technical problems prevented the sailing from happening at the first modern Olympics but it's been raced for at almost every one since then. Some of that may dovetail in with the equity issue, since it was the first sport in which women competed and the first one in which a woman won Gold.

Henderson has said that criteria of this sort indicate that sailing's place is actually secure.

Very interesting post. Thanks. 
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