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    Posted: 08 May 18 at 8:08am
With regard to the ply hulls my boat is around 1985 and the addition of a couple of extra floor battens stiffened the floor up nicely.

God it rigged with a flyaway too so all 3 sails are there. The total outlay probably around £500 or so and 2 happy kids.
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Mirror racing is like any other dinghy racing, you don't want a grossly over weight boat.
Wonderful though they are, they're not exactly quick when down to weight.
Even if you only want to teach the basics of sailing, you have to think about where you go when that phase is over. You may find other mirrors to race or you may want to sell.
There were some GRP mirror clones, ISTR some with wood decks. Some may have been built like outhouses for basic training? One of these might be carrying Mirror sails with someone else's number.
There is no reason why a grp hull/ wood deck composite should not be (at least vaguely) down to weight. I'd suggest weighing it, even if you can't do it precisely.
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My 1960's woody has never been restored, only painted occasionally, if an adult jumps into a Mirror, even a good one, you will go through.
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I would worry far more about putting your foot through the rotten floor of a 40 year old woody (been there, done that ..

Yes, same here, and it was a lot less than 40 years old. I'd go with the composite.
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I would worry far more about putting your foot through the rotten floor of a 40 year old woody (been there, done that, quite enjoyed the woodwork project.

The mirror is an awesome boat for sailing with young kids (mine were using the spinnaker aged 5). If it were me, I'd bite their hand off for the composite one.

If your kids are small, rig it up with a flyaway pole and they'll love it.
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Hmm, I have the opportunity to buy either a composite with a load of new rigging, spinnaker and combi trailer/trolley - or - slightly cheaper, a late 70s ply model in great condition with original sails, no spinnaker and road trailer only.... Teaching the kids to sail and hopefully for them to race as they get experienced..   The weight of the composite worries me... May only be a set of scales that can help me decide.
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Originally posted by Noah

What the heck were they made from? Unobtanium? A Winder or Severn composite Fireball is only 79Kg

They are a sandwich hull, The Mirrors were csm/resin I believe.
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Just an excessive amount of matting and resin I expect. Would probably stop a bullet.
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Unobtanium it very light, not heavy. 
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What the heck were they made from? Unobtanium? A Winder or Severn composite Fireball is only 79Kg
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