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    Posted: 04 Apr 18 at 4:32pm
Not a lot when you look at Football and Snooker etc, highest paying sports are televisual sports and games, hopefully, if tv can get a sailing pitch that works, our top sailors can make a decent living.
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I suspect wages afford a £30k dinghy with a global circuit taking in the Far East, Australia, the Americas and the prime European hotspots at a regular rotation.... I guess it kind of helps that pro sailors can push these costs above their taxable income lines, and honestly, good luck to them - mixing talent with training and hard work to fund a lifestyle is not to be scoffed at on the Internet.    But I would struggle to feel any kind of sympathy for encountering the routine skunkings the rest of us are susceptible too.... that's sailing unfortunately.  

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Suspect wages vary somewhat depending upon reputation. Certainly only one olympic gold medal wouldn't guarantee a big pay packet.
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Originally posted by turnturtle

Six figure salary AC crews get stuck in Bermuda on holiday with only 2 days racing...

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I'm not sure they are on six figures... is that pure speculation or have I missed something? of course its good pay to go sailing
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Six figure salary AC crews get stuck in Bermuda on holiday with only 2 days racing...

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To be fair to the Moths, it's not usually wind strength but sea state that stops them. So an enclosed venue like Bermuda sound should be good for the class (ignoring the logistics of getting there). 

'It's not normally like this' is a well worn cliche, but with all the AC met data, the Moth Class must have had a  good idea of what 'normal' was. From all reports it sounded like a freak week. 

Rationally, I think it's just bad luck, rather than anything intrinsically wrong with foiling boats or a sign of global warming! 

It is a shame though, as it seems Goodison's form was pretty much invincible and he would of like to prove it against an all star cast for his hat trick win. Sadly a side effect of ETNZ AC victory meant half the moth fleet were no longer living in Bermuda and many with jobs in the balance aren't going to spend thousands getting back there.  




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Originally posted by salmon80

strange sailing instructions.

19.3 SIX races are required to be completed to constitute a valid Championship

19.4 When fewer than 5 races have been completed, a boat’s score will be the total of her race scores.

so they scrapped in with 6 races but had the facility to only sail 5....

Without  six it's still an open event, but no one gets 'World Champion' title. 19.4 is just about discard. It doesn't change the fact they needed six races to call it a championship. 

Quite a few events have a discard coming in before the event qualifies as a champs, it's not really strange. 

Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

But it is the nature of the game, the only way to mitigate is to choose somewhere like Garda where tie wind is more predictable. We need wind to sail, but not too much or (in the case of foilers) too little.

Enterprises can have competitive racing in 3 or 4 knots, Moths less so.

In my experience whilst other boats can sail outside the wind range of the moths, it rarely happens at championships.  The 200s have a lower limit of 4 knots, but I've never seen a race start in that and they're often abandoned if they drop to around that strength. Not because the boats aren't making way, but because the direction becomes unstable. 

The moths are probably a little restricted in heavy weather though.

I've also been to Garda and struggled with no wind in thunderstorms, so no venue is impervious. 


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But it is the nature of the game, the only way to mitigate is to choose somewhere like Garda where tie wind is more predictable. We need wind to sail, but not too much or (in the case of foilers) too little.

Enterprises can have competitive racing in 3 or 4 knots, Moths less so.
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