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    Posted: 31 May 17 at 7:52pm
Cool cheers guys

Rope wise I'll check out the rooster product. Didn't know they had a Halyard as well as the proline mainsheet stuff... 

Was thinking of just using 2.5 sk99, with a thickener as you recommended

Still thinking about a possible 1:2 in the system either inside the rig or next to the forestry to get faster hoists...
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What Southsailor said.
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Use 3mm D12 for the halyard, pull the kite up and mark where the halyard is in the cleat, then take a short length (about 10-15cm) of 3mm D12 and splice it into the halyard where you marked it, effectively you're just adding a shore core of D12 so you end up with a short length of 6mm halyard. Best to use some whipping twine and add a couple of locking stitches at each end just to make sure it doesn't slip (it shouldn't as the D12 locks on itself). By adding a core you give the cleat a 6mm section to grip so you won't have any issues of slipping. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sam.Spoons Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 17 at 10:49pm
Stiff rope for the halliard. It feels crap to handle though. I haven't used it but Rooster have a low twist halliard rope they say is good to handle........
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Post Options Post Options   Quote GG NHRC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 17 at 9:10pm
Anyone have tips on avoiding the dreaded twists...?
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The blue pump cleats are definitely the Northfix version. They last almost as long as the metal Harken cam cleats (i.e. longer than most boats!). After about 10 years of regular use they can start to slip, but a few seconds work with a file or a grinder resharpens the edge which grips the rope and gets you another 10 years.
The crucial factor in the pump systems though is the takeup, and preventing the rope twisting. When buying both the halyard and elastic, make sure you see the chandlery take it off the reel. It's critical that it is unwound properly and not pulled off the side of the reel, otherwise you get twists built into the rope that are almost impossible to completely get rid of, and can jam the system really easily. These twists always show up for the first time at the point when you're leading the race on the inside on a busy leeward mark rounding, and never when you're checking the boat before the race......



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@ColH. The blue anodised pivoting bit in a stainless frame is, I think, the Northfix cleat. You are quite right though that the key to a good hoist is ensuring the take-up works properly. 
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I had an old wooden (yet *stunningly* beautiful!) Fireball a few years ago. I don't recall the make of pump cleat but it was just one of the blue-anodised ones from way back when. It looked like it could have equally been made in a shed with a black n decker, but it worked perfectly. I suspect the action may be as much about having good take-up blocks and shockcord.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote GG NHRC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Mar 17 at 10:28am
It's a great system for a swift hoist

Thinking of adding a 1:2 purchase inside the rig to aid up and down.

But not using a pump down system as used on canoes and rs700s
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