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    Posted: 20 Feb 17 at 10:47pm
Take a look at the Draycote Fireball fleet pages - e..g. http://www.draycotewater.co.uk/fleets/fireball/html/rigging_-_spinnakers_-_boats_w.html. 

It'll give you an idea of the size and also shows the bag closer system, which is needed to stop the kite escaping. I would echo RS's advice to visit a fleet for a good eyeball. Time and fuel well spent. Staunton Harold near Nottingham; Hayling on the south coast; Blackwater on the east coast; Draycote Water near Rugby; Poole; Paignton; Chew Valley.......

Also see http://www.fireballsailing.org.uk/index.asp?selection=technical-information but be aware some of the links are broken in the migration to the new site - apologies.

Finally, the bags need to let water out so mesh in the bottom or leave holes in the corners.


Edited by Noah - 20 Feb 17 at 10:50pm
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Yes mainly about being rigid enough
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Originally posted by Josh14441

I am planning on making bags out of some old sails that have been torn up just for now and may replace with proper bags in the future but the bags are quite expensive for what they are so I'm just looking for the sizes now


Quite right. The cost of the bags is mostly labour. A bit of proper mesh in the bottom  might be worth it.
 I saw a 'ball at the show a while back, neat system of drawstring and elastic to close the bag. A look around your nearest Fireball fleet would be a couple of hours well spent IMHO. Most Fireball sailors will be only too happy to help.
I suspect the size is mostly about leaving enough deck for it to be rigid enough?
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try SP Boats for cheap and cheerful bags. they wont have extra pockets in but he'll do you a good deal.
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I am planning on making bags out of some old sails that have been torn up just for now and may replace with proper bags in the future but the bags are quite expensive for what they are so I'm just looking for the sizes now
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i'd buy some standard bags and make the holes to suit.
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Does anyone know what size the spinnaker bag hole is as I can't find any measurements online and placement Ie distance from the edge of the cockpit and the edge of the deck 
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Thanks, everyone I have emailed the Membership Sec asking about the certificate and will cut holes for bags this weekend. And considering these photos were taken 2 weeks ago and the progress I have made it should be done in 2 - 3 weeks. 
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I think that that is a Severn composite that has had the deck ply replaced. The hatch at the front looks like its always been a hatch, chutes on fireballs tend to be fitted to starboard and the bow tank would have had an inspection hatch from new - therefore the hatch to starboard has always been a hatch.
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Originally posted by Noah

Hi Josh, Can you post some pics? And maybe let us know where you are? Then you may get a volunteer to eyeball your boat. I am aware that some 'balls had a 'scoop' out of the deck either side of the mast and kite bags were, i believe, intended to be fixed into these. Hope this helps.


bagged kite  FBs  would have, as you say, 'scooped' foredeck or holes in the deck with the bags  beneath. 

 i premuse the reference to 'chuck it' launch would be  exactly that ...  even though  youcan do a 'pick up and chuck' launch from  through deck bags , esp if the  sail is in the windward  bag ... 
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