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    Posted: 11 Feb 17 at 6:32pm
'Oop North', at about the same time, Martin Page, John (and possibly Roger) Tushingham and the Escreet brothers were involved in the design of the PET which went on to become the Free Radical Div 1. basically a rectangular cross section with a rounded plum bow a bit like a Lark. Very quick in the typical inland light stuff, quick too in a blow but not the easiest thing to gybe. Then, as we said, they changed the rules.........

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Yup, so the powers that be changed the rules to outlaw it  Disapprove

And just look where their other 'edicts' for the good of the sport soon got them ... disaster and rapid decline snached from the jaws of wild success.... so long ago now I can hardly remember who exactly was involved - probably just as well....  Wink  
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Yup, so the powers that be changed the rules to outlaw it  Disapprove
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Cirrus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 17 at 3:26pm
So how on earth would it work on a reach or downwind - always flying one side of the 'hull' ?   Sounds tricky because if you don't it inevitably has the hydrodynamic shape of a brick  - complete with 'toed-in' foil(s) to put a further damper on progress.   

The only variant of this I've ever seen work well was Shaun Cox's unique board more than 25 years ago with 2 'bows' coming to a common aft section with conventional single pivoting board.  It had a fair bit of rocker and this allowed him to sail it relatively flat on the reach and/or offwind by keeping the bow(s) largely clear of the wet stuff.   It worked very up and down wind. 
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Something with a topper shape but hollowed out would give better angles, surely? Tunnel hull scows have been around for a long time, but Moth rules limited what they could do. The Vortex went too cat like, in some ways, so the "gap" (one boat?) is still there!
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My logic for not wanting a catamaran was simply because they nearly always trip over the lee hull and cartwheel in the waters off here when you're punting them hard, so I wanted the benefit of twin hull without the negatives, I still think that part of the idea is relevant, what was questionable was going for planing hulls rather than rounded displacement..
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Originally posted by Rupert

So, presumably the boat simply looks like it isn't pointing very high, but the leeward hull is facing the same way as all the other boats?

Why go to so much trouble to design something just so it isn't a catamaran?

So we talk about it on here perhaps?

What happens in choppy water?
It would need to be nearly capsized to keep the windward hull out of Solent chop!
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So, presumably the boat simply looks like it isn't pointing very high, but the leeward hull is facing the same way as all the other boats?

Why go to so much trouble to design something just so it isn't a catamaran?
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yeah I did a design concept for V2+ ...  triangular, asymmetric boards - i just have to find it!  

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