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    Posted: 09 Dec 15 at 4:07pm
Chris 249,

Yes but no but. Peter did indeed come up with Hurricane, which was a 20ft version of his tunnel scow Moth that had sold well down in Oz. The nickname for the tunnel scows of the day were 'kitchen doors' - for in plan form the boat was a simple rectangle in shape. Without the confines of the Moth rules (simple thought they be) Peter was able to experiment with a greater tunnel effect, to the point that at the bows the boat looked like it would all but become a cat! Certainly the rig was cat inspired, with an over-rotating cat section mast rigged with double diamonds ("a double diamond works wonders"...... you'd have to be an old fart to remember that advert). Jack Chippendale built it but was not very complimentary about it..... good old Jack with his eye for a hull form.

BUT.... that is not the end of the story, for once Peter had got it right with Fireball, before he downsized to the Bullet, he tried an upscale version. No tunnel hull nor kitchen door, a straight forward 'Big Ball' - called it Calypso. The idea at the time was that there would be a family of Fireballs, like the three bears, big, middle and small. At least one boat was built - and, AFAIK, another appeared a few years back in a yard sale of old boats.

It is all history now but at the time, it looked like Peter could have been on to something....but sadly it was not to be.

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Realnutter put up the link to the Quant 23.....lovely it of kit, amazing; until I remembered the guy who had his foot damaged recently by a foil.

The Quant 23 remindes me of Boadicea's chariot with knives on the wheels. Serious Ouch!! Thankfully I'm unlikely to be near any of these things.
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Originally posted by craiggo

Andy, that bow is fugly!

Indeed it is, needs a bit more work on the bow, but it was a quick sketch.
Graeme didn't take me up on it though.

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Originally posted by Rupert

 

Did Milne ever try a much bigger Fireball? Imagine a 24 foot 3 man version, half the weight of the YW scow.

He did the Hurricane, a 20 footer with a Veed hollow in the bow.
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Originally posted by Rupert

If you are going to sail a boat heeled, the twin boards do make sense. On the yankie boats, they even stand on them at times, oddly.


see my design for GRF V2 from wayback - asymmetric boards, toed in to match the flow when the hull is heeled.



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I built my first Cherub  (2437 in 1975) in the living room. We could watch TV over the top ( bottom ) of the hull with the TV on a high stand. I had to take out the window glass to get it out - it wouldn't bend round the corner to get it out of the kitchen/back door. I have some pics somewhere...

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If you are going to sail a boat heeled, the twin boards do make sense. On the yankie boats, they even stand on them at times, oddly.

Did Milne ever try a much bigger Fireball? Imagine a 24 foot 3 man version, half the weight of the YW scow.
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Originally posted by MerlinMags

Did such practices really die out completely?

Gybing boards are a better solution to give exactly the same result and go in and out of fashion in various classes.

Edited by JimC - 08 Dec 15 at 6:04pm
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