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Buzz ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 14 Jun 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 101 |
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I find Xcweather very good. Then compare with the Met office.
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rich96 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 20 Jan 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 596 |
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The Phantom is very good in light breezes - don't be put off by 'too little' wind - just go out and see what happens. Anything over 10 - 12 knots in a Phantom is hard work so get used to the boat in lighter breezes first. Don't spend too long worrying about the forecasts etc - go along and, if its sensible, go sailing. Too many sailing days are lost be people taking to much notice about the forecast wind. Also - some of the better know 'wind forecast' websites regularly forecast ridiculous gust speeds - this puts off lots of people and they are regularly completely wrong. We had one the other day that said something along the lines of 8 - 12 knots gusting 25 ?. It never went above F3 all day. |
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about a boat ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 25 Oct 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 60 |
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Enjoy the boat it is a great boat. Also look at the Phantom Class Association forum for any tips or questions you might have.
Considering the wind, it is also easier to go out in a building breeze. So if the forecast is say 8 knots building to 15 give it ago. But if it is a full on 15-18 straight in it might be a bit intimidating until you get more used to it. |
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giwy1 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 06 Jul 15 Location: Lincolnshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 19 |
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Thanks pat, seems so logical really but not when you're a newbie. Really helpful advice so thanks for that.
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patj ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 16 Jul 04 Location: Wiltshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 643 |
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Windguru is another good website www.windguru.cz - you can choose between miles per hour and knots in the options.
Being heavy like us you'll find light wind (below about 7 mph) an absolute pain so try to pick days with about 8-15 mph windspeed and gusts of very little more - it's the difference between wind speed and gust speed that causes problems - more difference, more problems. On flat water you can watch gusts coming across - try standing on shore on a windy day and watching the water surface for practice and see just where those gusts are going and how they bend with the shape of the lake. Also for starters go out when there is a safety boat on duty and others to help you. Once you get going a bit, join the racing as having to sail a specific course is much better training than just going where you fancy and also everyone knows where you are headed so you aren't just a randomly moving obstruction to racing. Edited by patj - 01 Aug 15 at 7:15am |
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giwy1 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 06 Jul 15 Location: Lincolnshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 19 |
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Hi woodburner, I picked it up today and is with me ready to be dropped off at covenham sailing club which is between Louth and Grimsby, do you know it? The wind over the weekend here is around 9 to 12 with gusts up to 20!!!! I might just go down tomorrow and Sunday and see how many go out, watch for a bit and go from there.... I'll keep you all updated
Thanks for all your help. |
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NickM ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 27 May 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 328 |
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If you are sailing from a sailing club, check to see if it has an anemometer that should give you a rough idea of the wind strength. A good one will record gust strength too. You can also buy a hand-held one for around £15 (Google it) but again probably not v accurate.
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Woodburner ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Mar 15 Location: Folkestone Kent Online Status: Offline Posts: 332 |
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The clue to what to really avoid is when you can see the white caps going down wind away from you, but then chances are there will be nobody else out. So rule of thumb let someone else go out first watch how they get on then make the decision, don't be too nervous you've chosen a great boat, get out there in it and practise, where are you sailing it Grant?
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bferry ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Jun 09 Location: Malta Online Status: Offline Posts: 190 |
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Wind finder is quite a good tool since it gives wind speed and gusts forecasts. This gives you an idea as to how stable the wind forecast is.
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kneewrecker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586 |
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my simple rule of thumb- look for white caps.
If there's white caps breaking across the wave top (sea) or in the gust pattern inland (look for darker water), then it's breezier than you think. Give it a season or two and you'll not find their presence disturbing
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