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Poll Question: How long do your dinghy class national championships last
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    Posted: 15 Jul 15 at 11:40am
There are events that can combine family or work commitments with good racing.

Two examples:

the Stars go to Nice every year between Christmas and New Year. Because of local wind conditions they sail early in the morning (first gun 07.00!) and are back for 11.00

in my local club we open the summer season with the Midsummer Twilights - 3 evenings of racing with first gun at 19.00 (just south of Dublin we can sail till 22.00).
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Well, mission accomplished. I didn't come last and don't think I got in anyone's way. Only really had one day of my favoured conditions but the event was really enjoyable nevertheless. Well done to Dave Acres, the new national champion!

I've concluded that 4 days is a great length for an event. Any longer and I wouldn't be walking this morning! 2 days of crouching in the bottom of the boat and 2 days of hiking has given my knees a real workout!

Hoping Steve will do another of his legendary write ups. 
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Have signed up for the 300 nationals which is 4 days next week. Seems about right to me. I can "spare" 2 days holiday and as the planets aligned with work and everything else going on this year I'm going to enjoy my first nationals for about 15 years and the first in the 300. I'm sure most people go aiming to win, I'm just aiming not to come last in every race and get in everyone else's way. 

Location plays a part too. I couldn't give two hoots about sailing in Portland harbour but I love the area where our nationals are this year but have never had the chance to take the boat, until now. Getting excited now!
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Surely one of the benefits of a longer nationals is that you have a good chance of a range of wind conditions. As a typical UK weather system lasts no longer than 72? hours a week long championship is likely to give you 2 or 3 completely different sets of conditions and you are more likely to get a more representative result, regardless of the number of races run.

I'm not saying someone winning a shorter event doesn't deserve it or wouldn't have won a longer one as well as those guys are usually up there regardless but there are lots of people throughout a fleet who favour one condition over another and if one condition dominates an event then is it genuinely a measure of the relative performance of each sailor?

It is a Nationals after all so one would hope that it was given a little extra effort than it just being like any other open.
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I did the Tasars once. 2 races on Friday, 4 on Saturday, 4 on Sunday. 2 discards but you could discard Fridays races. Not fair but not a bad solution.
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The 49er's have run a kind of flexible solution for a few years, no one has complained but equally no one has really taken advantage of it either, it works like this;
day one Thursday - training with a coach
day two Friday -  mini series of up to six races with discards etc over all result from the day goes into the over all scores like one race.
day three and four - Saturday and Sunday 3 or 4 races a day standard racing format includes the friday score, discards as normal ( you can still discard Friday )

The idea being you can do a four day holiday and get a lot out of it, or just turn up for the weekend and do a two day event with no real penalty. The Friday also has the benefit of being a sort of practise day and by the time the races mean much you have a good day of mistakes out of the way.

Not sure it makes a lot of odds to the numbers, but no complaints and we still do it! 
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Originally posted by Noah

Fireball have been Sunday - Friday for many years with a lay or reserve day normally on the Weds. For '16 we're going to try Thurs - Sun and keep the same 10 race series - no lay day. We'll see what it does to the turnout.

Edit to add that the family have come with me to all major champs so far, both UK and abroad, with only a couple of exceptions. The Bread-knife views it as an opportunity to explore new locations.

it will be interesting to see what happens with the new format
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I could never justify a week off to go sailing to my wife so was quite happy to go for long weekend Nationals when I sailed Hornets.
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Fireball have been Sunday - Friday for many years with a lay or reserve day normally on the Weds. For '16 we're going to try Thurs - Sun and keep the same 10 race series - no lay day. We'll see what it does to the turnout.

Edit to add that the family have come with me to all major champs so far, both UK and abroad, with only a couple of exceptions. The Bread-knife views it as an opportunity to explore new locations.


Edited by Noah - 30 Jun 15 at 4:33pm
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