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    Posted: 04 Apr 15 at 6:54pm
Chris 249. Here on the Solent, one of the jewels in the sailing world's crown, (NB - not including Hayling or the Chichester Harbour Clubs in this) - the biggest fleet of one designs dinghies offering regular fleet sailing is................... the Foxer! Yes, the little David Thomas 11ft dinghy that sails on a par with a piece of driftwood. But week after week, you have a collection of top class sailors (including the likes of Ian Southworth) enjoying close racing, within the confines of the busy Hamble river. Speed - be it is a sailing dinghy or on a hotted Honda, is great...but it can soon pall.
History tells us that revolutions are fed by the lack of a middle ground, which suggests to me one reason why the Laser revolution - which sits firmly in the middle ground, is the one that has stood the test of time. Watching a fairly good sized handicap fleet today, I was struck by the exceptions - a 29er and an RS 500, rather than the rest of the fleet, which was a dependable mix of the so called 'older' boats.
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Originally posted by RS400atC

Originally posted by ChrisI

Well, one is here already RS400atC... although its not a boat for the C I'm afraid....

But re the OP I think Chris249 is completely right...

I'm more and more thinking that dinghy sailing needs (in awful consultant speak) a 'new paradigm'.
And by this I don't mean anything to do with boat design.


I think what dinghy sailing needs is to stop trying to 'include' and 'convert' and 'entertain' all those who are not really interested and just get on with being a great sport for the minority who love it.

I said that in so many words a few pages back. I agree.
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Originally posted by ChrisI

Well, one is here already RS400atC... although its not a boat for the C I'm afraid....

But re the OP I think Chris249 is completely right...

I'm more and more thinking that dinghy sailing needs (in awful consultant speak) a 'new paradigm'.
And by this I don't mean anything to do with boat design.


I think what dinghy sailing needs is to stop trying to 'include' and 'convert' and 'entertain' all those who are not really interested and just get on with being a great sport for the minority who love it.
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To my mind a lighter boat enhances the day from the moment you pull it out of the berth to the moment you push it back.
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Originally posted by turnturtle

Originally posted by davidyacht

I was thinking along similar lines, I anticipate the arrival of Aeros at our club, which will (according to the PY) be quicker than my Solo.  Will the faster lap times make the experience more enjoyable, probably not.  


Will it f**k. happy Easter David.


Of course they will, you won't be in a solo for starters
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Originally posted by davidyacht

I was thinking along similar lines, I anticipate the arrival of Aeros at our club, which will (according to the PY) be quicker than my Solo.  Will the faster lap times make the experience more enjoyable, probably not.  


Will it f**k. happy Easter David.
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Well, one is here already RS400atC... although its not a boat for the C I'm afraid....

But re the OP I think Chris249 is completely right...

I'm more and more thinking that dinghy sailing needs (in awful consultant speak) a 'new paradigm'.
And by this I don't mean anything to do with boat design.
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The AC and so forth are not interested in 'participation' any more than ManU shareholders care about Sunday league in the park.
They want circus, spectacle, TV viewers and advertising $$..

Not sailed an 'ero yet, but I can well imagine that if it's got a little more speed to fight the tide and feels a bit more responsive than a Solo, it might get a few people into racing.

I'm waiting for the ultralight 2 hander.
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I was thinking along similar lines, I anticipate the arrival of Aeros at our club, which will (according to the PY) be quicker than my Solo.  Will the faster lap times make the experience more enjoyable, probably not.  
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They may want crash n burn sailing, but to get there they need to learn how to do it on boring slow craft. Interest level dies very quickly and they don't bother anymore.

That is of course presuming that they get off their arses away from the computer screen, which of course they won't cos they're addicted to the things and nothing will get them away. Forget targeting them and aim at fuddy duddies, they are the ones with cash and time. 
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