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iGRF 
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 Topic: A nice boat; what does it for you?Posted: 22 Dec 14 at 5:21pm |
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Same for me, I like a balanced boat that I can feel through the seat of my divided butt wetsuit.
Good Boats I've sailed so far L3k, EPS, Zero, Aero, Alto, Icon, Supernova Bad Boats I didn't like Laser, RS500, RS100, L4000, Solo, RS300 Others I've sailed but ambivalent about, 505, RS800, MPS, Blaze, |
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rb_stretch
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Posted: 22 Dec 14 at 4:28pm |
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Originally coming from a windsurfing background, a nice boat is one that communicates well with the crew, so that you know when you are getting it right.
It's one of the reasons I like the Phantom and so far I've still not had to mark a single setting on anything - I do it all by feel. No doubt there are many other boats that qualify, but only fall short for other reasons as they don't suit my size, weight and sailing location. |
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rogerd
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Posted: 22 Dec 14 at 4:24pm |
Exactly why I loved our old GP. Had some pretty good racing in her as well as cruises on the Lakes and family beach days.
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turnturtle
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Posted: 22 Dec 14 at 3:55pm |
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A simple, elegant design.
Cover off, sail up, quick yot around the pond, cover on, back home to my wife and kids.
That's what a nice boat is for me- right now anyway. |
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PeterG
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Posted: 22 Dec 14 at 3:41pm |
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Fast stable, exciting, cheap, light, good looks etc, etc of course
But what really matters to me in a boat is one that I can have good class racing with on my doorstep. Which rules me out of ever being an early adopter!
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getafix
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Posted: 22 Dec 14 at 2:05pm |
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it would be so easy to answer this with 'fast' 'easy' 'exciting' and lots of other such terms, but, if I think about sailing I've really, really enjoyed then it would probably be something like a Wayfarer which was about 20 times easier to move about on land but just as much of a pleasure to sail along in, racing or otherwise.
ticks a lot of boxes for me: - pleasant to sail, modern controls and nice enough decks to hike off - decent in light or heavy (you can reef it and get back from the pub, even if it's blown up and you've had a few!), furling genoa and nice kite for running down the shore line, out of the tide - capable of cruising and being dragged up beaches (can even chuck an anchor over the side of a spot of fish murdering) - capable of taking a load of weight the perfect foil to my 100, which I really love for all it's light weight, planing and more physical aspects, but not something I can go cruising in down the harbour for a picnic when the suns shining, dragging a couple of mackerel spinners on the way back
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Posted: 22 Dec 14 at 11:02am |
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I agree speed is not everything - a basic Caterham is more fun than a Bugatti Veyron etc. The faults of a boat can sometimes lead to the best fun. A laser radial off wind in 20 knots plus is still a massive laugh. but part of that comes from the inherent fault of too small a rudder meaning you are on the edge of control. That said the rest of the time there are now better alternatives.
Racing a folkboat, or similar keelboat in tidal conditions where every angle and 1/4 knot make a difference is not only a pleasure because of the boats inherent balance and sea properties, but because the whole racing experience is so tactically demanding.
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drifter
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Posted: 21 Dec 14 at 9:17pm |
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I like boats with no horrible vices-for instance dont become unsailable on a windy run. Hence Grad or Alb, or Solo singlehanded. Also, still go well in light winds. In an ideal world, an Albacore at half the weight, or an affordable Merlin.
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craiggo
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Posted: 21 Dec 14 at 8:52pm |
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I agree with Bootscooter. I jumped into a Laser in the summer for the first time in over 10yrs and had an absolute ball. I get the same joy from my Graduate. That said I still love my RS700. I think I get the most enjoyment from being able to experience a bit of everything.
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Rupert
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Posted: 21 Dec 14 at 7:56pm |
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So, a boat needs the marine equivelant of skinny tyres? Could explain why the Minisail is fun.
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