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    Posted: 11 Dec 14 at 10:12pm
Originally posted by JimC

I'd start with the T cut and avoid the wet and dry unless totally desperate.
This is a big piece of advice, the wet and dry technique should be your last resource.
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I do apologise, I totally forgot that it's a requirement round here that you have your sense of humour removed before posting. Have a nice day :)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote piglet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 14 at 11:59am
Thank you Paramedic, I have my FAW certificate but that doesn't make me good at your job!
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haha, if you've had go at yours i bet i can find some ;)
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"very fine sanding marks that polish does not quite remove."

Not on my watch!
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There is loads of gelcoat on a laser hull compared with most classes today, though it would have been rather thin by 70's standards.

If you are careful you can sand out most abrasions with 600-800 them finish with 1200 before polishing. This will be much faster than just polishing it off, with the tradeoff that you do need to take more care. Provided you are careful you will remove no more gel than the polish only method as all you want to do is remove the discolouration.

Obviously you could hit problems if this has been done before, so on an old boat i would check carefully before proceeding. If you shine a torch directly onto the hull in a garage or shelter you will be able to see very fine sanding marks that polish does not quite remove. You do need to get the light just right for this, but they look very different to scratches due to use and are a dead giveaway that someone has had a go before.

The discolouration is more than likely due to UV, though i have seen a couple of boats that have changed colour due to damp being held behind something stuck to the boat. These have always been dark colours and you have to wait a few weeks/months for the gel to breathe the moisture out. This is also more likely where a chart has been taped on rather than a sticker which is adhesive. One boat with this problem returned to its original colour over the summer.


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The gel coat on my Lightning is so old and has been smoothed so many times (some by me, many before, I think, and worn by trolleys) that it is see through in many places. Soon I'll have to paint her. Hewever, I think it would take a while (and serious lack of care) to wear out unsanded Laser gel coat. Imm is actually quite think in this situation.
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Laser gelcoat is only about 1mm thick in places, especially the bottom areas that get the scratches. At Draycote in the late 1970s one sailor used T-Cut and a rotary buffer, and had managed to produce the perfect shine. Until he stood back and saw a large dark patch: he'd gone completely through the gelcoat.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote piglet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Nov 14 at 1:49pm
We use Farecla sponge heads on Draper 6" air grinders here, have tried lambs wool but too fussy and the edges can damage.
As Null said, keep it damp, a few sprinkles from the w&d bucket does the trick.
You do have to try quite hard to burn gelcoat with a mop, car paint is more delicate.
 
This is all very well if one is in the trade but a lot of trouble & expense for someone who just wants to tidy his boat up.
 
Anyone got any inside knowledge of Vela grey?
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the other thing to beware of is exactly what's going on: is it that the gel coat has gone pale where the sticker was, or darkened where it wasn't? If the latter should be the case then you could end up removing a lot of gel coat to no advantage.
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