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    Posted: 09 Oct 14 at 11:43pm
Originally posted by winging it

There are no commercial Coach Assessor courses.  This helps keep standards up both in coaches themselves and also in DIs and SIs.  

exactly,   given there is often concern  laid as the door of the DSA over the standards of Cat D  drivers becasue of the number of 'in house' assesors working for the bus companies  it is a valid concern.


Originally posted by winging it

The National Sailing Scheme and Youth Sailing Scheme are a best effort at maintaining standards and portability across the teaching of sailing, sometimes let down by centres that hand out certificates far too readily.  

Commercial self certification for this would be a nightmare.


exactly asnd as you  suggested above the tight control over Dinghy Coach/ Assessor, PB Trainer / Examiner  and windsurf Trainer  is  part of this Qa process.
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There are no commercial Coach Assessor courses.  This helps keep standards up both in coaches themselves and also in DIs and SIs.  

The National Sailing Scheme and Youth Sailing Scheme are a best effort at maintaining standards and portability across the teaching of sailing, sometimes let down by centres that hand out certificates far too readily.  

Commercial self certification for this would be a nightmare.
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Originally posted by kneewrecker

I think it is now done by commercial entities self certifying isn't it?

 how many  commercial Coach /Assessor courses are  run ?

as the RYA imply  that  Coach/Assessor  is  something they control  quite strictly

 http://www.rya.org.uk/coursestraining/coachestrainersinstructors/pages/dinghycoachassessors.aspx

ditto with   power Trainer and Advance examiner, Windsurfing  Trainer 


commerical run Measurer  training  any one ? 

 that could go one of two ways  - either ridiculous fees and waits  or   far too many  poor ly trained and it ending up like the joke that is PAT for  plug in eletrical stuff. 
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I think it is now done by commercial entities self certifying isn't it?
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therer is also the stuff like measurers ,  and the   training that needs to be done at  egional / national level to get  decent numbers to do it  ( or would you rather that be  conducted by commercial entities for hundreds of pounds per delegate per day )
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See the link below

http://topendsports.com/events/commonwealth-games/sports/index.htm

It is on the list but has never been used.  Cry Cry Cry
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Originally posted by kneewrecker

Originally posted by Phil_1193

They 'gave' me a number to use when I'm board racing

Also as a nominated Windsurf member I get 3rd party liability insurance

For the limited times I use the board these days its quite handy 'just in case' :-)

UKWA replicates that by the way.



But costs more to join and is limited to one aspect of the 'sport' Smile
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Scotsfinn - you wouldn't happen to know why sailing wasn't a commonwealth sport, would you?
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Certainly in Scotland they represent the Sailing and Boating fraternity at numerous levels and with unstinting attention to detail. 

They consult on everything from safe and regulated navigation, to environmental issues and onto issues involving the Crown Estate and Government. They're supporting the growth and development initiatives for marine tourism throughout Scotland.

Oh and also they organise thooosands of kids and adults into learning to sail, they support clubs (and club development) and even the dreaded yoofs development and performance coaching. 

This year they put on the best sailing party of the year - the Commonwealth Games Flotilla - 250 boats, a party for 1500 people and then a cruise up the Clyde to Glasgow watched by a rumoured 100,000

Maybe that's not bad for a small management team and whole load of volunteers ........ Well done RYA ... you don't alwyas deserve the battering you get form the chattering masses.
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I think the N12 was one of the ones who preferred to keep the class rules as they were, rather than fitting in with the new format. The idea that the 2nd oldest existing National class (I believe - after the 14, which became International fairly quickly) should actually not be one at all any more does rather answer the question of what it means any more - not a lot.

I know that some of the National classes were set up by the RYA - the National 12 foot and 15 foot one designs, for instance - after the war to encourage participation, but others like the MR Albacore and Graduate had it bestowed upon them.
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