The Tasar v the Icon

Originally posted by Rupert   But if you are happy there is no Aussie Tasar magic then fine - it was a suggestion, as is allowable on a forum. The only way to prove it would be to get say the top 50 Aussie and top 50 UK Tasar sailors together and see how the results table looked at the end of a week of racing. That isn't going to happen.

Is it? Isn't it generally windier down under than here? You'd have less lightwind events skewing the py

Originally posted by iGRF I know the contender, I've race it every week for what 8 years now, or is it 10, my how the time has flown, anyway I digress, I also now know the Tasar, having raced an oldish one down the lake and at Hythe, then spending two gruelling hours trying to keep a really well helmed one at bay during that round sheppey race in what I imagine were his ideal condition, he got me when I had a bad moment and I only got him back due to a tidal error on his part. But I know this, had my club mates in their Contenders been there that day, they'd have toasted us both, they can hold an Alto upwind on such a day, the only way you nail Contenders is with a three sail reach (and be sure to sail by them as close as you can they really appreciate a windward dunking, you can hear them for hundreds of yards after you've past them) That guy in the Tasar was a very good helm, he didn't miss much, just one mistake, which we can all make in the course of four hours he was unfortunate to make it at the end of the race rather than the beginning, but even so with his obvious skill he wouldn't hold a Contender, sorry, not a chance. Nor is there an Aussie sailor that could have helmed a Tasar not a Miracle dream team against our best club pair, not a chance.

I'd imagine any half decent wiring single hander down under would have gone MPS or other more exciting use of his her wiring skills.

I know the contender, I've race it every week for what 8 years now, or is it 10, my how the time has flown, anyway I digress, I also now know the Tasar, having raced an oldish one down the lake and at Hythe, then spending two gruelling hours trying to keep a really well helmed one at bay during that round sheppey race in what I imagine were his ideal condition, he got me when I had a bad moment and I only got him back due to a tidal error on his part.
But I know this, had my club mates in their Contenders been there that day, they'd have toasted us both, they can hold an Alto upwind on such a day, the only way you nail Contenders is with a three sail reach (and be sure to sail by them as close as you can they really appreciate a windward dunking, you can hear them for hundreds of yards after you've past them)
That guy in the Tasar was a very good helm, he didn't miss much, just one mistake, which we can all make in the course of four hours he was unfortunate to make it at the end of the race rather than the beginning, but even so with his obvious skill he wouldn't hold a Contender, sorry, not a chance.
Nor is there an Aussie sailor that could have helmed a Tasar not a Miracle dream team against our best club pair, not a chance.

Edited by iGRF - 13 Oct 14 at 10:04pm

Originally posted by getafix It's interesting that Tasars and Contenders are getting compared, I guess it's an open water question but on open water, I don't see why you'd go without a wire, particularly upwind.  In the more confined spaces then it's interesting and I wonder how both Tasars and Icon would fare against a modern N12?

part of your question can be found here: http://results.burghfieldsailing.org/show.php?page=2014_sun_fast_sp_am.htm