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AlanH ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 17 Apr 10 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 84 |
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Yes correct there is a design for an Osprey jib. Never seen one, but would like to try it if one existed. I have a genoa furler on my Osprey as a way of reducing sail area in either light (helps kite to set on a run) or between/ after races if very windy. FFs use them in same circumstances. Was just saying to an FD sailor that they could do with trying a jib too, to allow lighter crews to sail them.
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Do Different ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312 |
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I have been told Ospreys are also allowed a jib as an alternative to their usual big overlapping genoa.
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zippyRN ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 437 |
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if i remember correctly a number of classes have specified sizes for reduced/ storm/ crusing sails
i beleive the Enterprise has /had such a set of measurements. |
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Chris 249 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041 |
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Depends how you do it, though. The same arguments that can be used to justify multiple sails can be used to justify multiple rigs, and they do become costly. And of course once one is using multiple rigs then the same reasoning becomes extended so that you have multiple foils to go with them, and the bigger trailer to store it all. |
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Times 10 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 02 Nov 12 Location: Doncaster Online Status: Offline Posts: 18 |
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Rupert the Streaker Wave sail came about for a number of reasons. Streaker sailors had initially tried reducing area by taking their old standard sail to the sail maker who chopped off the bottom 2 or 3 feet, which shortened the luff and reduced the area of the sail. These sails though are not very nice at all to use. Performance was ok up wind, because there was less sail area, but the boat was unbalanced and so became difficult to sail. The sail never looked that nice either as luff curves did not match anymore. Downwind the reduced sail area high up seriously reduced the performance. The Wave sail was developed so that the Streaker was still balanced up wind, infact the helm is very light when using this sail, the Streaker does have a rocking dagger board which allows you to balance the helm to a degree. And, the idea was not to totally kill all performance from the sail. This I think was acheived quite nicely with the double batten fathead sail design. It does have the advantage that the head of the sail spills the wind automatically when it is really blowing. Down wind though that extra bit of sail area higher up keeps things interesting. This forum was rather critical of the developement at the time, but maybe 40 or 50 of these sails have been sold in the last 3 years, and I know some Streaker sailors appreciate the reduced sail option. |
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Lukepiewalker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1341 |
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centre of effort and gust response?
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Ex-Finn GBR533 "Pie Hard"
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Why was it decided to go so radically different to the normal sail? |
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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gordon ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Sep 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1037 |
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Radio sailing classes define several sizes of rig - works well.
Heavy weather sails depite the initial outlay save money as you don't ruin the full size sails asthe flog before the start or on the beat. |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Which just goes to show how far mast and sail technology has come on, even in a nominally one design fleet, that they aren't needed any more, with the likelihood of getting caught with the wrong sail up. |
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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SUGmeister ![]() Sailwave Moderators ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 265 |
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In the late 60s early 70s it was completely normal at the front end of the Enterprise fleet to have 2 sets of full size sails, baggy for light, flat for heavy. |
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Simon SUGmeister
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