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    Posted: 05 Feb 14 at 3:55pm
http://www.autohoot.com/pdf/008-027_1WEB%20AutoHoot%20II%20sales%20flyer.pdf
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Hi
I think Richard Russell does a start timer you can add into a system.
Sorry cant remember the name of his company but Lymington area.
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Originally posted by Oli

Originally posted by JimC

I was thinking I ought to write a smartphone app that does the sequence and calls out a countdown and the flags combined with taking a video. Then you could point the camera along the line and have a video of any OCS and have the timing automated... All you'd need to do would be obey instructions on what flags to use (it would call them out too) and it would be portable electronics that wouldn't need to stay on the boat.

ive been waiting ages for someone to do this as i don't have the required skills myself.  would suggest that the user can put in their own start sequence timings though as not all clubs use the standard...




You would need to make sure the smartphone had the correct lens or else the distortion would lead to inaccuracy. A 45mm lens would probably be the most accurate.


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Originally posted by JimC

I was thinking I ought to write a smartphone app that does the sequence and calls out a countdown and the flags combined with taking a video. Then you could point the camera along the line and have a video of any OCS and have the timing automated... All you'd need to do would be obey instructions on what flags to use (it would call them out too) and it would be portable electronics that wouldn't need to stay on the boat.

ive been waiting ages for someone to do this as i don't have the required skills myself.  would suggest that the user can put in their own start sequence timings though as not all clubs use the standard...


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 At Crosby we have an automatic box which contains a starting clock which works on the 5410 timings, but will do pursuits. Connected to a hooter box.  It even gives a minute lead in for the OD to get ready with the flags.  The flags are on an old laser top section, which has a drain pipe at the bottom. On the five hoot, five flags go up, and on conseq minutes a flag drops into the holder. At go there are no flags.  means we can set watches off any flag !  no sailing past asking " how long to go "    Modelled on the Americas cup start system and works well so far.  Our resident 80yrs old OD can even work it !!  Simples.......
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Originally posted by JimC

I was thinking I ought to write a smartphone app that does the sequence and calls out a countdown and the flags combined with taking a video. Then you could point the camera along the line and have a video of any OCS and have the timing automated... All you'd need to do would be obey instructions on what flags to use (it would call them out too) and it would be portable electronics that wouldn't need to stay on the boat.

That's a really good idea.
What could possibly go wrong?
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I was thinking I ought to write a smartphone app that does the sequence and calls out a countdown and the flags combined with taking a video. Then you could point the camera along the line and have a video of any OCS and have the timing automated... All you'd need to do would be obey instructions on what flags to use (it would call them out too) and it would be portable electronics that wouldn't need to stay on the boat.

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Marke,

Can you PM me with details of Starcross's light system. We have been toying with the idea for about 15yrs and are currently looking into it again and Starcross has been mentioned during numerous occassions.
Details of lights used, timing system etc. would be grateful.

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I have sailed at Grafham twice with the new system. For me as a cat sailor. Go! when number 9 is showed is simple. I have also been on the committee boat twice working the new system and have found it stright forward. With the shortened starting sequence, we now get 4 races on a Sunday. Well done to Peter Saxton and his fellow club committee members who have worked so hard  to improved the club recently.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Time Lord Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Feb 14 at 3:32pm
We have an automated system that runs the timing and the hooter. It is neither bulky nor difficult to maintain. The whole system sits in a beautifully crafted wooden box (totally unnecessary but that's the way the box was made) which contains a 12v small car battery and under the lid an A5 sized plastic box with the electronics Gubbins which displays the programme being used and the countdown / count up timing and there is also a manual pushbutton control that the RO can use to signal boats over the line.

This plastic box can be unplugged from the wooden battery container and taken off the committee boat up to the duty box for the finish (we normally have the start on the water but finish on a fixed line from duty box). The countup time is displayed in seconds (removes one cause of calculation error) and as a boat finishes, the elapsed time is noted down as finishing hooter is sounded. You can also play back finishing times later but this is only rarely used.

The battery box also has a plug socket so that the battery can be plugged in to a charger at the end of the day. The electronics box has some D batteries which are changed each year.

This has worked for us for quite a few years and if duty crew are in short supply, the race officer can run the start sequence singlehanded. As a well known optimist, I also start my own watch at the first gun - during the finish of one race, a visitor and yours truly were falling about laughing at the antics on the water and managed to knock the electronics box off its perch and dislodged the internal battery connection so losing the time.

As for starting sequence for class starts, we have 1) Menagerie fleet (usually Phantom, Lark & Vago), 2) Merlin Rocket 3) Laser 4) Gp14. 5) Solo. 6) Comet. This sequence enables the various fleets to spread out in reasonably clear wind rather than bunching up when the faster boats catch up the slow.
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