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No doubt that oracle got faster by the day, but even during Tuesdays first race Team NZ was faster and closing up to Oracle upwind.
They were sailing the boats differently. The stats showed that oracle was sailing lower upwind, foiling more often, albeit sailing longer distances in every race. The Kiwis perhaps didn't have time to experiment with that mode? Or perhaps it just didn't work for them.
A series of things were happening which got this result. Bringing Ben in changed the whole character of the boat, suddenly there was communication and lots of it. That in itself gives a crew confidence, especially as it was calm focused and determined. The tactics of the oracle after guard was almost faultless this week and they were obviously spot on in reading the shifts and puffs. When there were errors, such as the nosedive yesterday, it was Bens voice you could hear calming then down and keeping total focus. You have to feel for the kiwis, but they made a number of bad tactical calls during the last few days which reflected their dwindling confidence. It appeared that they made a number of pure gut feel sudden decisions and put some shockers in - what on earth was that lee bow move, when they were ahead, had a clear starboard and needed to get back across to the city shore. If you are going to lee bow, you also need to be close enough- I suspect Spithill et al couldn't believe their luck at that point. During the first race on Tuesday they looked almost quicker than Oracle at times, but having taken the loss and then the awful second start, they seemed to be in a different class of boat and you only had to look at Deans face after the race to see that he knew the cup was gone baring an accident or breakage the next day. |
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Mark Jardine ![]() Admin Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Mar 04 Location: Milford-on-Sea, United King Online Status: Offline Posts: 1028 |
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It won't be long! |
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Jimbob ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 05 Sep 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 77 |
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Watched 'live'on Sky Sports from start to finish,ie, taped and watched later to cut out ads. It was magnificent to see these giant boats going so well and the crews making it look so easy. I sailed a fast cat and I know it is not.
Unfortunately apart from the starts and one or two close races most were drag races after one team broke away. I think Oracle was probably the faster hull right from the beginning but the crew was not up to speed. That was probably due to their training boat prior to the racing not really being fast enough to give Spithill and crew real competition except for starting. So when the racing started TeamNZ was walking all over Oracle except at the starts. But huge credit must go to Jimmy Spithill and crew to eventually match and surpass by a large margin Dean Barker and his crew and eventually walk all over HIM. Team NZ were very unfortunate to lose the Regatta as they were only 2 mins away from closing it out. But after that race they were never in the hunt. At first I thought it was TeamNZ choking but it gradually became obvious that they were just not fast enough. I have one criticism of Dean B, ie, maybe he was too complacent at the starts when he had a huge lead. He was outclassed there for a spell and it does not do team morale any good to lose the starts like he was doing. But all in all great for sailing. Can someone now produce a small single handed foiling cat? I might come back sailing if they did. |
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yellowwelly ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2003 |
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+1 and is anyone still cynical? What a fantastic spectacle... almost as good as the Olympics.
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Mark Jardine ![]() Admin Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Mar 04 Location: Milford-on-Sea, United King Online Status: Offline Posts: 1028 |
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My quick report online at http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/172487/ORACLE-TEAM-USA-win-the-34th-Americas-Cup
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oz man ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 26 Apr 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 247 |
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Anti climax? Don't worry it will look better when Hollywood get hold of it.
Personally it's been the most exciting ac I've watched and it's a shame it's over as I now have to hand over the telly to the mrs (eastenders and downtown abbey) |
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oz man ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 26 Apr 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 247 |
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Anti climax? Don't worry it will look better when Hollywood get hold of it.
Personally it's been the most exciting ac I've watched and it's a shame it's over as I now have to hand over the telly to the mrs (eastenders and downtown abbey) |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Thought the NZ team did all they could, too. Got the start, got the 1st and 2nd marks, just didn't have the speed.
Anti climax, though? I didn't think so - we got 1/2 the race as very, very close. |
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getafix ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Mar 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2143 |
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Thing is, when a guy from the mid field of F1 "does" Vettel or Alonso in a GP because for some reason their aero package is better in a particular place/time I think "fluke". When a load of seriously good sailors come from behind, in a winner takes all final, I think "wow"... Even though' at the end of the day, being that much quicker helps you look brilliant!
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GarethT ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Apr 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 714 |
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What more could the Kiwis have done in that race? Didn't seem to do much wrong, but just not quick enough.
Bit of an anti-climax really. |
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