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    Posted: 05 Apr 13 at 1:05pm
Originally posted by fab100

And regardless of what that pond-monkey will say, you can be competitive and have great fun in an RS100 - far more fun than an Autumn series  of one-way, tide driven sausages at HISC

I never said you couldn't have fun, but if you can't get the kite up when others are planing in normal 'off wind mode' then sorry, no, you're not 'competitive' as 50% of your downwind sail area is restricted from use- especially with the falling PN from the original manufacturers recommendations.  

However above all of that, I'd make a couple of 'macro' points:

1) if there are other 100s, D1s, 400s, 200s, L2ks etc then don't worry about the unarigs and symmetrics; hike hard and smile.

2) if you're taking PY racing that seriously that it bothers you enough to consider changing classes to get something 'more competitive', then quite frankly you're missing the point of yardstick scheme and you really need to find a club offering some fleet racing in your current class, or something else.
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Come to Frensham, either an Open or the Frenzy (week after Dinghy Show, you missed it for this year)

We have 9 marks and usually use 8 of them in club races and opens, giving 3 different beats and a variety of downwind angles. One course has 3 successive gybes, always a laugh in a serious blow.

Navigation is not usually a problem for visitors. An hour race will be 3 to 4 laps, so your boat handling better be up to snuff but it does explain why my legs hurt at the end of a mile long beat elsewhere.

And regardless of what that pond-monkey will say, you can be competitive and have great fun in an RS100 - far more fun than an Autumn series  of one-way, tide driven sausages at HISC
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Originally posted by kingdacks

I am sure you would get to do some harbour exploring in Poole weekend ( it was called Poole week)  this year.

Provided you are in the right class (which we hopefully will be).
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I am sure you would get to do some harbour exploring in Poole weekend ( it was called Poole week)  this year.
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I vastly prefer the variety of courses round the local marks. Learning your way around is just part of the challenge.
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depends on the class and venue for me.  if its a one design event and the venue is on a large estuary or sea then olympic/windward leeward is what i want.  if its a local class open meeting or a special race type event then local courses would be better, especially on a restricted river.
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I try and avoid open meetings where sausage/triangles or any other sort of plastic course is set(and usually miles away from launch site) Wink. Give me a varied course from a club line anyday.
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I was having a chat about this with my brother the other day. I havent really sailed much in the last 10 years, but spent many years racing triangle/sausage. These standard courses make navigation pretty straightforward and allow you to concentrate on sailing fast. On the odd occasion where club courses were set for opens, usually on river courses,  the local guys had an advantage, but it actually made a refreshing change, and we pretty much treated the first race as an orientation race, learning the names and locations of marks.

Having a mix is probably best, I can see the benefit of the standard courses, but it is nice to have a bit of variation.

I learnt to sail on a small lake in the northwest, we had a good number of marks around the pond, and a list of standard courses, with the option to create a bespoke one, It used to amuse me when acting as race officer to set the most convoluted course possible, making the race more of a test of handling than outright boat speed. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Apr 13 at 10:18pm
Am I blind? Where is WH5 on that chart?

But I agree. One of the reasons for travelling is to do something different.

Edit: Just found it!

Edited by Peaky - 03 Apr 13 at 10:20pm
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Obviously any course worthy of the moniker "decent" would have at least one pub stop en route  Beer
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