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    Posted: 27 Feb 13 at 10:11am
Mine used to attach to the mainsheet block attachment straps on the boom, a couple of hooks. Never capsized it so can't comment on the ease of release while under duress. 
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cheers Roger... I bought the bungee from P&B, pretty fat stuff.  No need to measure, there's plenty of Solos at the club with them so I can just mimic one of their set ups.  I'm sure I'll have a suitable block & hook somewhere.
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Originally posted by pondmonkey


I plan to fit one this weekend, I'm not sure what the total elastic required will be, but I guess you want enough tension across the centreline, but nothing like maximum stretch.


Can't help with the length, but I'd guess 3-4m would be sufficient, very powerful bungee, 10mm diam from memory. Tied to the kicker take off point on the boom one end, down round a suitable block tied to the bow and with a metal hook on the other end so you can quickly attach to the same point as the other end after hoisting the main, I can check at the weekend but I guess I only have to stretch mine 18 inches to 2 foot max, but its very powerful bungee.




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Originally posted by Roger

I think you are all over complicating this issue, the bungee exerts very little downward force and as the boom moves further from the center line that minor force would drop even further as that reduces the tension on the elastic.

I have sailed with one of these on a modern Solo for the last 3 years, it does what it is supposed to in light winds and is never a problem at any other time..



I plan to fit one this weekend, I'm not sure what the total elastic required will be, but I guess you want enough tension across the centreline, but nothing like maximum stretch.
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I've already got quite a lot going on with the bow cleat ever since I had that incident when the mast fell down, but I had envisaged an on/off pulley which I pulled tight to engage and slackened when I didn't need it, it maybe could double as a redundant safety so the mast doesn't fall completely down again. At the moment I have an adjustable rake thing, backed up by a bit of spectra so if I let it all go or it slipped through the cleat, the mast won't fall completely down.

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Originally posted by RS400atC

Can you pull the front pulley of it to the bow with another block and a cleat?

On my vintage moth I just have the block attached to the bow with a hook... Means you can't pull it off/on on the water but its a lot less hassle than more strings.
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Can you pull the front pulley of it to the bow with another block and a cleat?
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Originally posted by Roger



I have sailed with one of these on a modern Solo for the last 3 years, it does what it is supposed to in light winds and is never a problem at any other time..

The JC strap can be a little annoying - at least on an OK - on a slipway because it pulls the boom out to the side of the boat quite effectively. Makes the boat tend not to sit calmly head to wind. 

Similarly, if it's windy and you're likely to capsize then it can cause hassle after a capsize. The boom pulls out to the side and the boat is slightly more difficult to right. Simple solution though. Just disconnect it as soon as there's any wind.

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I think you are all over complicating this issue, the bungee exerts very little downward force and as the boom moves further from the center line that minor force would drop even further as that reduces the tension on the elastic.

I have sailed with one of these on a modern Solo for the last 3 years, it does what it is supposed to in light winds and is never a problem at any other time..




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Post Options Post Options   Quote RS400atC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Feb 13 at 11:36am
I think some people over the years have used quite strong bungee, to overcome the friction of the mainsheet. I think that's wrong, you don't want the sail held out when the boat has picked up speed in a puff, then the wind goes forward after the puff, leaving the main as an airbrake.
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