Laser 28 - Excellent example of this great design Hamble le rice |
![]() |
Laser 140101 Tynemouth |
![]() |
Rossiter Pintail Mortagne sur Gironde, near Bordeaux |
![]() |
List classes of boat for sale |
Bouyancy Tests |
Post Reply ![]() |
Page 12> |
Author | |
Jamie600 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 14 Jun 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 718 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posted: 05 Jan 13 at 9:40pm |
That's a very good point indeed!
|
|
RS600 1001
|
|
![]() |
|
Dougal ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Sep 09 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 556 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The irony is that you can launch any old tub into the sea without any requirement for bouyancy tests, life jackets, insurance, rescue cover, ability etc.
|
|
What could possibly go wrong?
|
|
![]() |
|
drifter ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 09 Jun 08 Location: Oxfordshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 177 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I have seen two Wayfarers sink-not lost as the lake is too shallow and the rescue boats were quick enough to stop them going down fully. Both times tied up safety cover for the rest of us. I also recall an I14 with tank hatches removed and strapped to combi being pushed into the sea. It drifted about for a couple of days until someone towed it in!
I believe boats should be seaworthy so they stay afloat after a capsize-but arguements over volumes taken in might not be helpful
|
|
Stewart
|
|
![]() |
|
Roger ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Mar 04 Location: Somerset Online Status: Offline Posts: 524 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I recall doing such tests as these decades ago, but haven't done one at my present club, small reservoir, and in fact can't recall the last time I did which probably means 30 years or more ago.
Solo class rules for instance ask an owner to self certify, sign there own endorsement on the back of the measurement certificate, and have the signature witnessed by a flag officer of your own club, nice and simple, and remains the responsibility of the owner. |
|
![]() |
|
Jamie600 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 14 Jun 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 718 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Al - we have two 'new shape' self draining Ents and my RS300, we've managed to swerve the test on the basis that the water runs out as fast as you put it it.
Kev - yes we have rescue cover at all times, no solo sailing is allowed. Plus even from many parts of the lake most people could easily swim to shore. Thanks for the responses guys, very good points regarding the shifting of liability from the owner to the club. Moving towards following whatever the class rules say rather than having a standard procedure seems a very good compromise if I don't manage to get the rule scrapped altogether.
|
|
RS600 1001
|
|
![]() |
|
kfz ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Nov 10 Location: UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 96 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
As per most clubs the handbook/rules say you are advised to carry the min buoyancy as described in the class regulations for that boat. Boats without a class then its just personal judgement. The onus is on the owner.
If a boat was unseaworthy then im sure a flag officer or Sailing Committee would have a quiet word. We sail in much more strenuous conditions than found on the average res. Never seen a boat sink, I guess its possible, old GRP with every tank holed. Old wood boats wont sink. Presumably if your on a res your racing with others and safety cover, not extended cruising without safety cover like we could be. I think your right, Seems a bit much. Kev
|
|
![]() |
|
JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
the traditional way of checking self draining boats was to have someone sitting on the boat with it on its side. First one side then the other.
I don't know that I'd say boats leak less than they used to, especially older glass Solos and Enterprises, but my understanding is with paramedic on why these checks went out of fashion... |
|
![]() |
|
SoggyBadger ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Oct 10 Location: The Wild Wood Online Status: Offline Posts: 552 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Even in the old days when you used to have to a buoyancy (or lack thereof) test at every club I've ever been a member of this was always done according to the rules laid down by the class.
|
|
Best wishes from deep in the woods
SB |
|
![]() |
|
alstorer ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Aug 07 Location: Cambridge Online Status: Offline Posts: 2899 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
What do they do if you have a self drainer? I appreciate these tend to be higher performance and not often suited to small ponds, but regardless, how on earth would you apply this rule to, say, a Musto? Or a Moth? (pre the "we'll just check the mast step" rule update) |
|
-_
Al |
|
![]() |
|
winging it ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Mar 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3958 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I think we have to sign something when we take out/renew membership that says our boats are seaworthy. I have in the past had to stop someone going out in an obviously unseaworthy boat, plus not long ago decided to 'retire' my old kestrel when I realised it was taking on too much water. I think it should be down to common sense and vigilance on the part of the sailing committee.
|
|
the same, but different...
|
|
![]() |
Post Reply ![]() |
Page 12> |
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions ![]() You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |