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    Posted: 10 Jan 13 at 2:22pm
Originally posted by tick

I only ever put my Solo in once and I let it drift ashore and stood it up so no problem. Anyway I hope that problem is a thing of the past as it is (I hope) sold to a man who knew a man who used Facebook. He is due to collect on Friday and when he does it can be chalked up as a victory for the new site!

Is Dave buying it then?
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Exactly - you tell you are planing by the fact that your mouth and nose are not full of sanding dust!
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Originally posted by Rupert

Originally posted by pondmonkey

Yep it's a multifaceted thread.... How do the CVRDA define a skiff btw?


A long, slim clinker built rowing boat, isn't it? And planing? "Row Harder!"

you are so effing wrong, you couldn't effing make it up... everyone knows a Skiff is a stitch and glue, flat bottomed, open fishing boat. & Toby, you only plane once, just before laminating iirc.



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Originally posted by pondmonkey

Yep it's a multifaceted thread.... How do the CVRDA define a skiff btw?


A long, slim clinker built rowing boat, isn't it? And planing? "Row Harder!"
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Originally posted by SimonW99

... came in very unpopular at first trial (which everyone thought was 'the trial') RS900 came out on top.


I don't recall any report with any boat coming out on top at the first trials, although I do recall just about every class involved claiming they came out on top. And I very clearly recall the rather strange limited aims ISAF were putting on the first trials which made it quite clear to me at the time that they weren't "the trials".

And I also seem to remember that the RS boat at those trials was a minimally modified RS800: what the thread starter might call a lipstick dinghy perhaps?

Are you very sure you aren't writing your own interpretation on the history here?

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Originally posted by Rupert

I love how many threads we have in one, here. All we need to do is work out how high the 49erFX floats when capsized and we can reunite a couple of them, at least.As far as I can see with the trials (and as I remember it, the 900 was only around for the one the FX was at) none of the boats were obviously miles better than the FX (as the 49er was in the trials it had years ago against the 5000, Boss etc) so why not pick the one with a proven track record?The hull having too much volume hasn't really been a problem with the Laser Radial, and I can't really see it being one with the FX.



I completely understand the logic in selecting the 49er fx for the girlies Olympics. Already established supply chain and loads of hulls around for people to practice with etc etc.
Back to the point of the original thread was its just not a very inspiring boat for the y and y dinghy of the year award.
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... And how do you know when said skiff is planing?
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Yep it's a multifaceted thread.... How do the CVRDA define a skiff btw?
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I love how many threads we have in one, here. All we need to do is work out how high the 49erFX floats when capsized and we can reunite a couple of them, at least.

As far as I can see with the trials (and as I remember it, the 900 was only around for the one the FX was at) none of the boats were obviously miles better than the FX (as the 49er was in the trials it had years ago against the 5000, Boss etc) so why not pick the one with a proven track record?

The hull having too much volume hasn't really been a problem with the Laser Radial, and I can't really see it being one with the FX.
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Originally posted by sargesail

So much of capsize recovery is also technique - I spent hours at the first 300 Nats hanging at arms length of my board (at least it felt like that).  Then I watched Goody on his solitary swim go round to the mast side, clamber on to the carbon mast and then step on to the board.  Easy!  Been doing that (when I remember) ever since.

And I have met people who knock the 300 as a high floater....completely missing the point.

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I found that out on my first trial sail in a 300 too Matt. Method totally by accident but it worked and I carried on doing it. Still do it to an extent on the phantom when its not a backwards one, but the shrouds and lowers get in the way a bit. I think that Mike has it right about the skinny sides. The Phantom rules mean that the side tank profiles are required which mean that the boat floats high. Some of the wooden ones have solved it by have cutaways in this area meaning that they float low and then the water all rushes out as soon as its upright. I first saw this on a Marauder in the early 80's.
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