Olympics footage looks rubbish compared to ACWS

   ACWS has really shown us how to televise sailing.. really disappointing to see that nothing's moved on in the Olympics in 4 years since Beijing.

gain line not being superimposed on the actual sailing, instead it cut's to some crappy grafix it loks like someone's kid knocked up
No lay lines or similar being displayed
No track footage showing when people tacked
Ok so maybe that's some ACWS propietary tech, but it's not like there wasn't a lot of heli's available at weymouth and how hard would it have been to: -
Stick a camera on the pin end-boat for close-ups 
Run a replay of whether Scheidt hit the pin or not - a quick replay would have been much more interesting than watching stars slog upwind for 20 seconds or so.
Figure out that when it's a running finish and you're filiming from the side it might be hard to see who's who - perhaps drop a camera boat 100 yds' upwind and offset (to be out of the way) and then split sceen the finish line shot with the 'run-in shot' - we might have a clue who's finished 4/5/6 then
should be doing better - and yep I know it's not the beeb's fault, they just get what they are served, hence the issues in the mens road race

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laser4000 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 02 Aug 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 589	Post Options Post Reply Quote laser4000 Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Olympics footage looks rubbish compared to ACWS Posted: 29 Jul 12 at 9:57pm
	ACWS has really shown us how to televise sailing.. really disappointing to see that nothing's moved on in the Olympics in 4 years since Beijing. gain line not being superimposed on the actual sailing, instead it cut's to some crappy grafix it loks like someone's kid knocked up No lay lines or similar being displayed No track footage showing when people tacked Ok so maybe that's some ACWS propietary tech, but it's not like there wasn't a lot of heli's available at weymouth and how hard would it have been to: - Stick a camera on the pin end-boat for close-ups Run a replay of whether Scheidt hit the pin or not - a quick replay would have been much more interesting than watching stars slog upwind for 20 seconds or so. Figure out that when it's a running finish and you're filiming from the side it might be hard to see who's who - perhaps drop a camera boat 100 yds' upwind and offset (to be out of the way) and then split sceen the finish line shot with the 'run-in shot' - we might have a clue who's finished 4/5/6 then should be doing better - and yep I know it's not the beeb's fault, they just get what they are served, hence the issues in the mens road race

blueboy Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 27 Aug 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 512	Post Options Post Reply Quote blueboy Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jul 12 at 6:29am
	I couldn't agree less. I've watched a lot of the ACWS and enjoyed watching Weymouth far more.

pondmonkey Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 12 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2202	Post Options Post Reply Quote pondmonkey Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jul 12 at 9:35am
	actually I think it's being done very well- you need your phone in your hand to follow @gaelpawson @yandyfeed and @dailysail_james just in case they channel isn't follow the race you're most interested in. You've got to remember- no ad breaks equal no/limited ad revenue outside of sponsorship and where we've come from... little to no coverage. + Leigh Macmillan and (allegedly Ben Proffitt for the RS:X) are a MASSIVE improvement in the commentary box

laser4000 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 02 Aug 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 589	Post Options Post Reply Quote laser4000 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jul 12 at 10:29pm
	well today was better in parts (ahving watched it on iplayer) I mean we got a replay of the start of the finn race when the Dane hit the pin! but then when there was an ainslie, dane cross up the beat did they show that - no. What's with switching to the grafix 'for the finish' - I don't want to watch animations, I want to watch the boats.. But yes clearly twitter is where it's at.. - thanks Pondmonkey I'll be adding those for surreptious use in the office tomorrow. Edited by laser4000 - 30 Jul 12 at 10:29pm

Notl Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 29 Jul 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 15	Post Options Post Reply Quote Notl Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 03 Aug 12 at 10:59am
	The BBC coverage is not good mainly due to the camera work although the commentators are not that knowledgable on the tactics and strategy of winning races. The GPS tracking does give a very good idea of how the boats are positioned but is ignored by the commentators despite it being proved correct time after time. The leader is the boat furthest to windward on the upwind leg as long as they are not outside the layline. It does not matter where the mark is.

Roger Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 23 Mar 04 Location: Somerset Online Status: Offline Posts: 524	Post Options Post Reply Quote Roger Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 03 Aug 12 at 4:57pm
	We can moan at the BBC as much as we like, but it won't change the pictures, thats a feed provided by the Olympic Broadcasters, its not BBC cameramen or directors. Go down to Weymouth and all the cameras have OBS on not BBC!! But the commentary is BBC, so feel free to moan about that....

The Moo Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 01 Jun 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 809	Post Options Post Reply Quote The Moo Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 03 Aug 12 at 5:42pm
	Good to see the p*ss and moan club is alive and kicking. Perhaps I am easily pleased but I for one am thoroughly enjoying it and suffering badly from sleep deprivation watching it on catch up after all the mainstream stuff. As far as the commentary and interviews go they might not be top draw compared to other BBC Olympics coverage but it isn't doing the sport any harm and very importantly we are not having to pay extra for the privilege of watching it.

dogslife Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 17 Feb 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Post Options Post Reply Quote dogslife Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 8:55am
	The raw footage and broadcast capacity is clearly there, but the production & editing don't quite measure up. However, the commentary is really doing my head, at best is can only be described as puerile, simplistic, clueless drivel. Surely the BBC can find someone better than Simmonds? Without doubt he is fast becoming the most annoying man on television.

r2d2 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 29 Sep 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 350	Post Options Post Reply Quote r2d2 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 9:26am
	I agree Simmonds is a rubbish sailing commentator all this "stick at the back of the boat" , "playing the joker" crap

nutonthetiller Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 17 Aug 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 31	Post Options Post Reply Quote nutonthetiller Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 9:43am
	Has anyone found any other video streams on line? Surely all races are filmed aren't they? How about a contact name in the BBC to let them know that sailors think Simmonds is dreadful?