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    Posted: 09 Aug 21 at 11:51am
What pop rivets do I need to attach stainless steel fittings to aluminium masts?

Do I need monel rivets?
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Depends really. If it is fitting with a high stress load such as shroud attachments, kicker tang etc then Nomel is a must. If it is a low stress fitting ie burgee holder then alloy would be adequate. If in doubt then default to Nomel. NB some plastic fittings could break before the mandrel of a nomel rivet such as HA 262 fairlead used as Laser/ILCA! Outhaul fairlead on boom.
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Originally posted by Andymac

Depends really. If it is fitting with a high stress load such as shroud attachments, kicker tang etc then Nomel is a must. If it is a low stress fitting ie burgee holder then alloy would be adequate. If in doubt then default to Nomel. NB some plastic fittings could break before the mandrel of a nomel rivet such as HA 262 fairlead used as Laser/ILCA! Outhaul fairlead on boom.

Nomel?

Is that a typo or is that different to monel?

Monel is Nickel Copper Alloy
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Just as a suggestion I use Duralac liberally smeared between the surfaces before riveting. It inhibits electrolysis.


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Duralac is a chromate containing jointing compound designed to inhibit electrolytic decomposition between dissimilar metals – often called galvanic corrosion. It is a single pack, air setting product. Used correctly, Duralac prevents anodic decomposition.



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Originally posted by Sussex Lad

Just as a suggestion I use Duralac liberally smeared between the surfaces before riveting. It inhibits electrolysis.


DESCRIPTION
Duralac is a chromate containing jointing compound designed to inhibit electrolytic decomposition between dissimilar metals – often called galvanic corrosion. It is a single pack, air setting product. Used correctly, Duralac prevents anodic decomposition.


between stainless and aluminium it is necessary to use a prevention compound like you suggest. These two are far apart on the galvanic table - https://www.qsl.net/n9zia/electrochemical.html and there will be issues with the ali being corroded if you don't.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote L123456 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Aug 21 at 2:48pm
Originally posted by Sussex Lad

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Duralac is a must.
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Duralac -full of CrVI -not flavour of the month environmentally , everyone is getting rid of it!
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Originally posted by Oatsandbeans

Duralac -full of CrVI -not flavour of the month environmentally , everyone is getting rid of it!

I believe it’s banned in the US. TechGel is the now preferred but it doesn’t set and so is less effective. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Andymac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Aug 21 at 7:33pm
Doh! Nomel = Monel. Typo x 2! Thanks
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