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    Posted: 02 May 18 at 3:03pm
Hi, Delving into the history books slightly...
I've recently seen a Mirror dinghy with sail number in the 68k -69k range. The hull is plastic (FRP/GRP?) but the deck and buoyancy tanks seem to be plywood. I know there are all FRP/GRP hulls with FRP/GRP decks but I've not seen this type of mixed construction before.

Is it a Bell / Ferranti as suggested by the sail number here...
http://www.ukmirrorsailing.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=481&Itemid=286

Or is it a hybrid from somewhere..
Any knowledge welcomed.
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I have asked around a bit (as i have a wood Mirror myself for sailing with the kids).

The aficionados say that both Bell and Trident made composite boats as you have described so plastic hull and wood decks.


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Thanks for the reply. Interesting that I couldn't find any history online. Maybe only a few were made but they would seem to have a good mix of robust and leak free hull with traditional looking topside.
Possibly heavier though if looking at performance.
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It is reported that some of them were very heavy, around 85kg vs a min hull weight of 45kg.
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What the heck were they made from? Unobtanium? A Winder or Severn composite Fireball is only 79Kg
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Unobtanium it very light, not heavy. 
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Just an excessive amount of matting and resin I expect. Would probably stop a bullet.
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Originally posted by Noah

What the heck were they made from? Unobtanium? A Winder or Severn composite Fireball is only 79Kg

They are a sandwich hull, The Mirrors were csm/resin I believe.
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Hmm, I have the opportunity to buy either a composite with a load of new rigging, spinnaker and combi trailer/trolley - or - slightly cheaper, a late 70s ply model in great condition with original sails, no spinnaker and road trailer only.... Teaching the kids to sail and hopefully for them to race as they get experienced..   The weight of the composite worries me... May only be a set of scales that can help me decide.
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I would worry far more about putting your foot through the rotten floor of a 40 year old woody (been there, done that, quite enjoyed the woodwork project.

The mirror is an awesome boat for sailing with young kids (mine were using the spinnaker aged 5). If it were me, I'd bite their hand off for the composite one.

If your kids are small, rig it up with a flyaway pole and they'll love it.
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