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    Posted: 24 Sep 17 at 3:26pm
An attempt to find out whether an Adopted classes only policy is going to influence folks' decision on which club to choose.
The club's adopted class list is
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Solo
RS400
RS200
(5 most popular according to the RYA PY list)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Sep 17 at 7:24pm
I’d have concerns about the quality of the galley - other than a 400, nothing for the fatties in that list ;-)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote PeterG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Sep 17 at 8:43am
Difficult to answer in abstract - even with your list.

I've gone for "slightly more likely to choose - I'd get a new boat". 

I'm not fan of compulsion, and wouldn't choose a club because I'm keen on lists of approved classes, but the key decision in choosing a club for me is will I get good fleet racing, not what classes are sailed. If having approved lists leads to a club having a better chance of fleet racing I'd be happy to go for it. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jeffers Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Sep 17 at 9:00am
If i sailed any of the above classes it may draw me to the club.

As I don't then I wouldn't give them a look in.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dougaldog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Sep 17 at 9:40am
I think Jim C has asked a very, very clever question but has taken it a step too far by being descriptive with the classes (though I understand why he chose them as they are the most popular, at least in numerical terms) BUT - if the question was the more simplistic "would you support a move to a club only supporting 'adopted' classes" - maybe as a first step towards a more structured question later, then I think the answers would be even more revealing.
Like it or not, you'd need a boat, a single hander, for the heavyweights for starters.
The real concern is that whatever you do now will be wrong in the next decade. After a long season travelling around the UK as RO or scribe, that popular press concept of the 'Doomsday Clock' is also ticking for our sport as the demographic cliff edge  comes rapidly towards us from over the horizon!
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My club approaching this cliff edge, all committee over 60.
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Originally posted by Dougaldog

[---] but has taken it a step too far by being descriptive with the classes


If I wasn't prescriptive with the classes then everyone would respond "I'd be quite happy, provided my chosen class is on the list" and the survey would be of very limited value. Picking the 5 most popular classes makes for a reasonably feasible scenario. Those 5 also cover approx 50% of races in the PY system, so if the responses don't suggest around 50% of respondees have those classes then you know your sample is skewed.

So far I would say that the responses seem to indicate roughly what I would have expected - that most sailors don't see local fleet racing as a high priority, and that adopted classes only policies are only viable if a club is massively over-subscribed.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote RS400atC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Sep 17 at 2:07pm
Originally posted by JimC

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So far I would say that the responses seem to indicate roughly what I would have expected - that most sailors don't see local fleet racing as a high priority, and that adopted classes only policies are only viable if a club is massively over-subscribed.



The problem is, you are asking a small number of people on a dinghy development forum.
If you were to ask people from a different group of sailors, you might get a very different selection of answers.
The classes you've picked are also perhaps not very aspirational.
Maybe if a club adopted the Musto Skiff and organised some coaching people would view it differently?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Old Timer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Sep 17 at 4:17pm
Originally posted by 423zero

My club approaching this cliff edge, all committee over 60.
Members
One third over 70
60% over 60
Less than 5% under 40

Sounds like most golf clubs ... 
 




Edited by Old Timer - 25 Sep 17 at 4:19pm
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