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    Posted: 07 Sep 16 at 9:18pm
I am hoping someone who knows education reads this and can advise.
No.2 son has enrolled on AS level PE (AQA 7581) as was his long term plan.
Today he got told by head of dept. that he can't do sailing as his main competitive sport as it's been dropped from the list as of this year.
This is a real body blow which we didn't see coming, having come through the RYA squad system he hasn't competed in any other sports outside of school and the course requires some level of sporting excellence.

I can't find said 'list' of sports on the AQA website, but the wife phoned them and they confirmed the situation.

What to do?
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I did a critique of a video for one of my junior group students for their A level PE last year, and I can see how difficult it must be to accurately compare disparate sports and end up with fair grades. Have they taken other "outlier" sports off the list?

As to what to do: either a different sport or a different A level.
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Originally posted by piglet

I can't find said 'list' of sports on the AQA website, but the wife phoned them and they confirmed the situation.


https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/447744/GCE_AS_and_A_level_activity_list_for_PE.pdf

The document appears to be dated January 2015.


Activities that can be moderated live are preferable but it was recognised that some activities do not lend themselves to this. In order to prevent students who wish to be assessed in activities that cannot be assessed or moderated in school (e.g. skiing) from being disadvantaged, the activities agreed by the awarding organisations will, as a minimum, allow filmed evidence of suitable quality to be produced to ensure reliable internal assessment and external moderation. Activities which cannot be filmed live in appropriate detail and accuracy, such as sailing, have not been included in the list.

The need for the inclusion of activities meeting local needs has been considered alongside the potentially conflicting need to ensure rigour and parity of assessment. The reliability of assessments has also been considered. Some activities not included in the proposed list may be comparable with other activities in the list, but have been omitted because they cannot be moderated live or because suitable quality DVD evidence cannot be produced. For example, although sailing may be comparable to other activities in terms of the skills involved, it is by its very nature an activity that is difficult to gather filmed evidence of a suitable quality to enable reliable assessment and moderation.


To include skiing and snowboarding (on real snow only) and exclude sailing seems more than a bit ridiculous.

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I don't know.
What makes this hard for us is that this has been in the planning for over a year and there was no warning.
Would there be any point appealing? and to whom?
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There was a parent and child(ren) discussing how best to film sailing for exams in the HISC boat park the other day. I confess to not paying too much attention as mine is way beyond that age, but it was July/Aug so not for the 15/16 school year. Exam board wasn't mentioned, but the mere fact that they were working out how to do it implies it must still exist as an option.
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Just don't get the Olympic broadcaster to film it...

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There have been a number of social media campaigns about this over the last couple of years, and the RYA put out a statement quite recently that they were lobbying to get it overturned.

Amongst the windsurfers it was a hot topic years ago, as it influenced a number of sailors GCSE and A level choices.
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I'd suggest dumping the PE and picking a more academic subject.
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There speaks an acedemic!

I emailed AQA and got a hard line response, as I expected.
Don't matter how good you are it don't fit in our boxes.
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Blood really boiling now.
It's set by the Dept. of Ed. so out of AQA hands and out of ours.
Sailing/Windsurfing/Kiteboarding was listed in 2014 as one of 40 activities
P15.   http://filestore.aqa.org.uk/subjects/specifications/alevel/AQA-2580-W-SP-14.PDF
Not listed in the current which now has 42 activities
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/447744/GCE_AS_and_A_level_activity_list_for_PE.pdf
 and the following statement on P.4:
"The proposed list has been reduced considerably from the previous offers with the view that a PE practitioner should be able to recognise the key skills, fluency of movement, etc., in the activities proposed.
The awarding organisations have removed activities that are so specialist or niche that specific expertise in that activity is required in order to assess them, for example martial arts"

Yet boxing is in along with equestrian & skiing?
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