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skslr ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 24 Jul 06 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 139 |
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![]() Built 2006 Length 4,95 m Width 1,86 m Weight 120 kg Sail area 14,7 sqm Small kite 20 sqm Big kite 24 sqm Thanks!
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SUGmeister ![]() Sailwave Moderators ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 265 |
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Dutch Hornet?
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Noah ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Dec 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 611 |
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I think that's a bit long for a Hornet and the stem angle and forefoot look wrong to me.
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gordon1277 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 24 Mar 10 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 665 |
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Hi
Is it the Mader two trapeze thing he developed? Sorry cant remember the name. |
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Presuming Ed ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 641 |
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The one for the Garda trials? Mach 2, IIRC - (again, IIRC), an FD hull with a new rig, including an assy.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Not an FD hull... Maybe the experiment continued?
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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robin34024 ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Jan 12 Location: Lincoln Online Status: Offline Posts: 116 |
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The australians have a lightweight 3 person version of the 12m Sharpie i believe? Could easy be wrong but this looks like one of them with an asy rather than the symmetric
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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A bit short for that, I think, but there are similarities.
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Chris 249 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041 |
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Fair call, but this boat is a metre too short, about 40kg(?) too heavy, about two feet too fat, has the wrong rocker, wrong flare and an assy. The fact that this boat can reasonably be mistaken for a Sharpie, though, indicates how far it is from being a "real" "skiff-as-we-know-it". The Lightweight Sharpie is the antithesis of the traditional Aussie skiff in many ways and yet it's more popular, much more widespread, and arguably much more representative of what could be called the mainstream of Australian dinghy design, which is centred around light boats with small rigs. To me that was always a strong indication that much of the '90s "skiff fad" was little more than marketing spin - if skiffs cannot dominate in the warm and windy waters of Oz, why would they dominate anywhere else? One of the reasons I dislike sticking the S-word onto half the boats afloat is that it ignores the enormously important influence of the lightweight development dinghy classes on modern dinghy and skiff design. Most of what we call "skiff" elements of design actually came from development dinghy classes with restricted sail area. Perhaps more importantly, the way the term is used creates the impression that there is only one stream of high performance design, which is a bummer when that stream is the most expensive and inaccessible one. Edited by Chris 249 - 15 May 15 at 5:39am |
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Do Different ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312 |
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Interesting points 249, you can be a little polar for me sometimes but always informed and considered.
Any images or references for this Northern Hemisphere numpty to peruse? The point that high performance doesn't have to mean lots of sail area is a good one. Looking forward to hearing / see more on these lines.
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