Nice new Laser for Christmas

   I'm intrigued by the advert I've just received by email from sailboats.co.uk inviting me to buy a brand new 'Festive red Laser' in time for Christmas. Sounds awfully jolly. But what's puzzling me is where the ad says 'lighter weight'.Lighter than what? How much lighter? 
Does this mean that if you buy one of these Lasers it will be lighter than other people's Lasers?
I wonder who is selling the heavier ones.

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Vronny Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 31 Mar 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 121	Post Options Post Reply Quote Vronny Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Nice new Laser for Christmas Posted: 28 Nov 14 at 4:57pm
	I'm intrigued by the advert I've just received by email from sailboats.co.uk inviting me to buy a brand new 'Festive red Laser' in time for Christmas. Sounds awfully jolly. But what's puzzling me is where the ad says 'lighter weight'. Lighter than what? How much lighter? Does this mean that if you buy one of these Lasers it will be lighter than other people's Lasers? I wonder who is selling the heavier ones.

Null Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 May 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 745	Post Options Post Reply Quote Null Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Nov 14 at 5:37pm
	Just had the same thing, including optimum mast rake.....The mind boggles......

fab100 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 15 Mar 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1005	Post Options Post Reply Quote fab100 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Nov 14 at 5:46pm
	Illegal rudder blade too, far too close to vertical
	Great book for Club Sailors here

craiggo Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 01 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1810	Post Options Post Reply Quote craiggo Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Nov 14 at 5:49pm
	I didn't realise you could distinguish between Norths or Hydes! It all seems a bit strange to me, but I guess this is what happens when everyone becomes unsure about who owns the rights and what actually constitutes a Laser.

maxibuddah Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 06 Mar 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1760	Post Options Post Reply Quote maxibuddah Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Nov 14 at 6:04pm
	Not sure I would bother paying an extra £50 for someone to not fold a sail....I mean surely it must cost more to actually fold the thing up???? It ain't going to make that much difference to the speed. And oh my god, all white foils, what? Like they used to be? Now everyone is on about RS bull advertising or the like, well this one really does take the biscuit.
	Everything I say is my opinion, honest

GarethT Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 21 Apr 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 714	Post Options Post Reply Quote GarethT Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Nov 14 at 6:34pm
	I'd guess it costs a lot more to ship sails rolled than folded, in containers from the far east (assuming that's where they come from)

kneewrecker Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586	Post Options Post Reply Quote kneewrecker Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Nov 14 at 7:28pm
	Yes Maxi - well observed, RS getting a little bit carried with their hyperdrive is worthy of forum mockery, they are still a good bunch of guys and more or less a boat for everyone in their range. That Ad is though, 100%, all out utter blocks- and utterly undermines the entire point of Laser sailing. And for what? A short term buck? wkers...

Chris 249 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041	Post Options Post Reply Quote Chris 249 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Nov 14 at 7:49pm
	This is completely bizarre; one sort of hopes that buyers of both normal and Xmas Lasers could lodge complaints of false representation, since the "normal boat buyers" apparently didn't get the completely competitive and equal hulls they want and the "Xmas buyers" are unlikely to get the light hulls they are promised. I do find the idea that any one rake will be "optimum" is a bit odd; it must vary according to sailor skill, weight, height, etc as well as the sailing conditions one is aiming to peak at. What are the tolerances like in the UK Lasers? Down here I think it's been accepted for many years that there is effectively no difference in rake between Lasers.

Jeepers Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 26 May 11 Location: Hamphire Online Status: Offline Posts: 147	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jeepers Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Nov 14 at 8:18pm
	Blimey...I'll never be able to beat them now on their current PN. Discuss?

Null Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 May 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 745	Post Options Post Reply Quote Null Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Nov 14 at 8:32pm
	From the same company that flouted the fireball class rules at one of the winter handicaps a few years back hmmffff. This ad is completely bizarre to me. Good old 'smod' racing.