Quagga Mussel - Check Clean Dry?

   Alright,  this new species is "highly invasive", and it's affecting whole ecosystems by filtering out large quantities of nutrients. It also presents a serious biofouling risk by blocking pipes, smothering boat hulls and other structures. 
Obviously all Y&Y forumites are following the recommended procedures  , but what percentage of water users in general do you think are doing so?  Is it all hopeless?  Are we doomed?

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Poll Question: What percentage of sailors Check Clean Dry?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
0-25%	5	[83.33%]
26-50%	1	[16.67%]
51-75%	0	[0.00%]
76-100%	0	[0.00%]
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Medway Maniac Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788	Post Options Post Reply Quote Medway Maniac Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Quagga Mussel - Check Clean Dry? Posted: 06 Nov 14 at 3:19pm
	Alright, this new species is "highly invasive", and it's affecting whole ecosystems by filtering out large quantities of nutrients. It also presents a serious biofouling risk by blocking pipes, smothering boat hulls and other structures. Obviously all Y&Y forumites are following the recommended procedures , but what percentage of water users in general do you think are doing so? Is it all hopeless? Are we doomed? http://www.thegreenblue.org.uk/news/latest_news/2012/reminder_to_check_clean_dry.aspx?utm_source=InBrief&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=nov14-inbrief-nonmem
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Medway Maniac Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788	Post Options Post Reply Quote Medway Maniac Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 14 at 10:54pm
	Judging by the lack of response, I'd like to change my vote to 0-25% !
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JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6661	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Nov 14 at 11:30pm
	Thames water have imposed strict washdown procedures at our club, but I fear it's too late. This country needs to take biosecurity a lot more seriously.

Rupert Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rupert Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 10 Nov 14 at 8:28am
	How many clubs have a set up where washing down boats is actually possible without queuing up and waiting for the single hose (positioned where you can't get more than one boat close at a time) at the exact time where you are wanting to get packed away after a long day, with the organizers wanting to get on with dishing out the prizes, the showers going cold, etc, etc? If stopping the spread of such things is so vital (which I'm sure it is) then clubs have to do their part too, and make it easy for competitors to wash boats (and trolleys) down. Otherwise, it ain't gonna happen.
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JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6661	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 10 Nov 14 at 8:32am
	Not just a hose Rupert, this is washdown with a chlorine solution to actively kill off the things. Edited by JimC - 10 Nov 14 at 10:19am

iGRF Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499	Post Options Post Reply Quote iGRF Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 10 Nov 14 at 2:39pm
	So, what exactly do these things do? Do they kill fish? Thereby ridding us of the problems of fish murderers? Where can I get some?
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JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6661	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 10 Nov 14 at 2:49pm
	No, they don't kill fish. They swarm in vast clumps over anything underwater, like zebra mussels but worse. They significantly alter the ecosystem by hoovering up plankton, and the effects of that are always unpredictable, but less plankton might well mean more light for weed to grow.

transient Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 21 Aug 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 715	Post Options Post Reply Quote transient Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 10 Nov 14 at 3:54pm
	If a boat has capsized is it possible to clean it thoroughly enough to kill all larvae? I have my doubts.

iGRF Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499	Post Options Post Reply Quote iGRF Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 10 Nov 14 at 3:58pm
	Or less plankton for fish to eat, I think it's worth a try, purely for scientific reasons, I'll donate Redoubt lake...
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Rupert Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rupert Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 10 Nov 14 at 5:16pm
	So what happens when the chlorine solution used to wash the boats down gets into the lakes we are sailing on? The quantity being sprayed around if every boat had to wah down after a 30 boat open meeting, even, would surely be a problem? Mighy kill off the mussels, though... And do we have to bring our own bleach? Sounds like a problem that clubs might need not only a lot of guideance, but practical help, too. I seem to remember driving through vats of something nasty to stop the spread of something a few years ago which closed several lakes for a while - maybe clubs need something along the lines of swimming pool foot washes, so boat comes out of lake on trolley then through the wash pool before being derigged. Though as Transient says, difficult to clean the whole thing after a capsize.
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