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    Posted: 28 Sep 13 at 5:04am
To complement the great imagery / computer overlay of the AC we also need to improve the quality of the commentary. The AC commentary didn't make me wince but we surely can do a whole lot better - especially for the UK market.

How about a Y&Y winter competition to find the future voice of sailing. Entrants comment on the AC final, online votes are taken and the finalists cut their teeth on some domestic events ready for a final selection before the next AC.

I think there is a great opportunity to bring sailing to the masses with passion, technical accuracy and personality.
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I have to say having watched the races live on Sky the commentary provided by Ken Reed et al was really very very good.

As I was watching it my brother who lives in Seattle was watching the same feed and we were instant messaging and boy you should have seen his messages when the innumerable commercial breaks came on!

He already hated American TV before this, he hated it even more after!
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As this is the dinghy bit of the forum, I'm not so sure we need a "Murray Walker", or a Rob Walker, come to that.  The AC's on screen overlay graphics were great in terms of understanding the effects of tide and breeze, even the <dodgy> wing wash speckles were at least a 'good effort'.  Commentary was great. In fact, my only criticsm is that the sailors, in their post race interviews, were not pushed on the sailing differences or tactics that they felt had won them the race.  OK, sometimes it was a simple case of "the other guy screwed up" (in so many words) but other times, that would have been quite revealing.

Problem with dinghy racing is that theres' usually more than 2 boats.  Overlay graphics are going to get quickly 'busy' rather than helping they could well confuse.  Having said that, I do think a combo of the kind of coverage the beeb managed during the Olympics, with a overlay pen ala Gary on Sky Sports Footy coverage post-race, say in the hands of Andy Green... that might be quite interesting angle.
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I think the single best thing they did in the AC coverage was overlaying grid lines showing their relative progress against the wind. At a glance you could see where the boats really were in relation to one another, whether they were likely to cross at the next tack etc.

I'd be interested to know where they were picking up their wind direction feed in order to show this. The next step would be to pick this up from right down on the race course, perhaps from instrumentation on the boats. If you could see the whole system of grid lines slant as a shift came in you'd really see the gains and losses as boats played the shifts.

Going one stage further still, what about mapping varying wind directions across the course? In real life the grid lines aren't really straight, eg if two boats are at opposite sides sailing towards each other and both are sailing in a lift, eg due to a wind bend, then the grid lines could be bent or curved to show a truer picture of who's ahead of whom.

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Originally posted by ohFFsake

I think the single best thing they did in the AC coverage was overlaying grid lines showing their relative progress against the wind. At a glance you could see where the boats really were in relation to one another, whether they were likely to cross at the next tack etc.



It was the best i've seen so far! Good , high camera angles helped the over lay of course.

Commentary on the US could have been better but it made it all a spectacle which the public outside sailing can relate more to.

I mean 45 mph with spray and helmeted guys running around was pretty exciting to watch.

I did feel the whole vid on YouTube had a kind of SciFi movie feel to it. 

Kevin Kostner, you sail a three hulled 28 knot sh*t box!


Edited by DFF - 30 Sep 13 at 11:11am
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The commentary was good apart from that Todd guy, I am led to believe he is a non-sailor brought in to add drama to the commentary. He couldnt add to the commentary but that didnt stop him cutting in and suggesting stupid things like suggesting that the wind limits were raised, etc.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote DFF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Sep 13 at 1:09pm
They should have that Irish (commedian) Commentating with his "racing gong has sounded" from the laser over dubbing which went viral last year...... that would have spiced it up....

Maybe they did have him in Ireland ?
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Originally posted by DFF

They should have that Irish (commedian) Commentating with his "racing gong has sounded" from the laser over dubbing which went viral last year...... that would have spiced it up....

Maybe they did have him in Ireland ?
 
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