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    Posted: 23 Apr 13 at 2:04pm
Just bought an Osprey, with carbon spars and foils. Would like to change the mast strut from alloy to carbon to complete the look. But... is carbon good at resisting crushing presures along the tube? Guess that's quite a different characteristic to its ability to resist lateral bends across the length of tube? Any advice from technical types welcomed.
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Yep Jim is absolutely correct.
Resistance to buckling due to axial compression is a function of length of strut, Young's modulus and section inertia.
In an application where the part would be expected to operate in a post buckled state, then the ratio of zero axis and off axis fibres would need to be considered in particularly thin walled applications, but I suspect this will be fine in a little strut.
Just ensure that what you get fits the end pieces well, and that the load is taken by the strut and end pieces, not by any screws or rivets attaching the strut.
If using mech fasteners take care to drill appropriate guide holes to te fastener, else it is easy to damage the laminate.
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self adhesive fake carbon......

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Originally posted by tick

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replacing with carbon tube is a waist of money

edit: and it's going to get clobbered by the jib clew all the time. And carbon doesn't like that sort of thing.

Edited by Jack Sparrow - 23 Apr 13 at 6:57pm
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Thanks for input guys. I had a feeling there might be some downside, and getting battered by a metal clew doesn't sound nice. Just weighed the alloy strut, its only about 300g, so not much weight saving on offer. I was going to recycle broken tiller ext as a strut so wouldn't cost much, but think I'd best stay with the old tech here. Pimping is a bit of a luxury.
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Been using carbon ones on 505's for years. No problem using them, but more because they look good than any advantage.
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Originally posted by AlanH

I was going to recycle broken tiller ext as a strut
Very much doubt that would be man enough.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Thunder Road Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Apr 13 at 9:17am
Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by AlanH

I was going to recycle broken tiller ext as a strut
Very much doubt that would be man enough.
It shouldn't have broken so it's probably not man enough, good one takes an awful lot of punishment before they let go.
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