Can a call for room to tack be made

   Scenario, 2 laser radials, close hauled both on port and overlapped.  Its handicap racing and we have to go through the gate each lap.  We're both approaching the committee boat end of the gate.  Boats are level with each other and the windward boat will make the gate, the leeward boat is aiming at the stern of the committee boat with no room to tack.

Is the leeward boat entitled to room to tack in this scenario or do they have to slow down/gybe round etc?

In this case the leeward boat managed to pinch enough to squeeze through without touching either the windward boat or the committee boat (millimetre clearance I reckon).  Just not sure on what the rules were with this scenario.

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Fraggle Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 28 Feb 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 220	Post Options Post Reply Quote Fraggle Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Can a call for room to tack be made Posted: 08 Aug 11 at 2:46pm
	Scenario, 2 laser radials, close hauled both on port and overlapped. Its handicap racing and we have to go through the gate each lap. We're both approaching the committee boat end of the gate. Boats are level with each other and the windward boat will make the gate, the leeward boat is aiming at the stern of the committee boat with no room to tack. Is the leeward boat entitled to room to tack in this scenario or do they have to slow down/gybe round etc? In this case the leeward boat managed to pinch enough to squeeze through without touching either the windward boat or the committee boat (millimetre clearance I reckon). Just not sure on what the rules were with this scenario.

JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Aug 11 at 3:22pm
	Well, its a mark of the course, its on a beat to windward. its large enough to be an obstruction. So work through rules 18, 19 and 20. To me Rule 18 states that L is entitled to mark room and W is required to keep clear. Rule 19 doesn't apply Rule 20.3 states that L may not call W for room to tack.

Rupert Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rupert Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Aug 11 at 4:18pm
	I'd agree with that. If L can squeeze through without tacking, then W has to give her room to do so. If she can't, tough. Should have planned the approach better.
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Fraggle Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 28 Feb 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 220	Post Options Post Reply Quote Fraggle Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 10 Aug 11 at 9:26am
	Cheers for the replies. I was leeward boat and had never actually been in the scenario before and wasn't sure what my rights were. Having asked other sailors after the race I still wasn't sure and wanted to know for future reference (hopefully won't get in the situation again). As for planning it better, each previous lap tacks had been required to get through the gate from the leeward mark. This time I rounded the mark with another radial and started working at undertaking him (he was tending to pinch). I was slowly managing this when realised that tide/wind changes meant no tacks required and by this point I was stuck unless I slowed right down, gybed or squeezed through. Managed to squeeze through and completed the undertake once through the gate.