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    Posted: 14 Mar 11 at 4:15pm
I like the GP 14 a lot but she is a bigger heavier boat and more for me to handle on my own. The advantage is though that there are a lot around to chose from and plenety of spares.
The Pacer is smaller but still has an open deck with lots of room and is very light.
I love the look of wood but I have to be realistic. With 3 kids under 7 and a wife that is allowing the purchase reluctantly the idea of me spending hours maintaining let alone sailing is a no no.
 
I need something that will allow me onto the water with my kids and then I suspect in a year or two if it all works out we may be looking for something a bit sportier and up to date.
 
I love the look of the N12 but no good for me now.
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Originally posted by Martin63n7

I like the GP 14 a lot but she is a bigger heavier boat and more for me to handle on my own. The advantage is though that there are a lot around to chose from and plenety of spares.
The Pacer is smaller but still has an open deck with lots of room and is very light.
I love the look of wood but I have to be realistic. With 3 kids under 7 and a wife that is allowing the purchase reluctantly the idea of me spending hours maintaining let alone sailing is a no no.
 
I need something that will allow me onto the water with my kids and then I suspect in a year or two if it all works out we may be looking for something a bit sportier and up to date.
 
I love the look of the N12 but no good for me now.

I think the Pacer is a good choice for you.

I wouldnt be too put off by wood, the secret is getting a good one to start off with., then its just staying on top of it. it doesnt take inordinate amounts of time just small amount of time quite frequently. I normally get the kids off to bed and then do an hour. And its enjoyable to do, which is the main thing.

When I started I was hesitant of a wood boat, what was I thinking! I love it! Ive even started a full nut and bolt rebuild on boat no.2 this year!

Anyhow good luck and if you do but Im sure I will see you over on CVRDA site.  Though thats dangerous in itself before you know it you'll have a 90 year old gaffer!

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The trailer does look a bit short in the pictures on e-bay but perhaps that is just an illusion caused by it not being pulled right forward. A tail heavy trailer does weave!
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I'm going to stick up for Nessa here, GRP boats are a hell of a lot easier to maintain and repair than wooden boats. No boat has sank from Osmosis and the comments made about it could easily be said for wood rot. In fact, I've seen a lot more holes in boats due to wood rot than anything that comes close to a hole with Osmosis.
 
There is the original point of view to take on board, buying from a beginners perspective. I really like well kept wooden boats but would say to a begineer, who is likely to maybe bump into a few things and not want to spend a lot of time 'loving' there boat that GRP is a much better option. If you hole the boat, can't repair it yourself and then take it to a boat yard, chances are the yard will charge less for a GRP repair due to the fact that they find it really straight forward as their currency nowadays will be mostly in GRP boats. You could throw one of the apprentices on the job instead of getting the older more skilled expensive boat builder to do the work.
 
Simple fact outside of sailing is that maintenance cycles have increased in periodicity within work boats since the move from wood to composites. Fibreglass is so good it's becoming a problem as what do you do with it at the end of it's life, if essentially the structure is good but the design is completely out of favour and past it's economic life. Do you attempt to flog a dead horse, dump it up an etuary or recycle it? Unfortunately, not enough people are aware of or select the last option.
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Claws for thought..
just knew I had this old'un off of  a 1967 wooden Solo boom-
it also had a swivelling bracket that fitted onto the gooseneck,
somewheres in the bowels of the garage...

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Posts: 96 		Post Options Post Options   Quote kfz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Mar 11 at 8:08pm
superb

I have garage like that too.  Only with more motorcycles in it, whats wrong with you only 3  Smile

cant see how that one works but the problem with those unless you run a line back  that the kicker pulls it along the mast ripping the main as it goes....

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Pear rotten stripped Phantom-now a garden feature.
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