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    Posted: 30 Jan 09 at 5:58pm
Once you get shifting it should be cool, but you are
right. You could just move forward a touch
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Thats good to know that my boat is in shocking condition.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Neal_g Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jan 09 at 7:51pm

Originally posted by ratface

neal, its a blonde! what do you expect...

that is true just like paris hilton theres videos of her all over the internet

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There is another boat the same design as cheese and slippery when wet for sale flying kipper it has 05 rule sails and t-foil and might be worth a look if you are after a cherub we sail it with 84kg at the back and I am 6 foot 3 and it goes well

have a look on the cherub web site.



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I would look at something like the Rs500 if you want to sail with your son.  Parts are available off the shelf, and you know the RS product already.  I sail a 200 surrently and im about your weight my wife is 7 stone odd , i struggle in light airs due to my fat arse in the back.  The 400 can be a bit of a beast when it comes tohiking in stronger winds, hence the 500.  your son can gain trapze experiene, which will be a great stepping stone to something like an 800 when your ready. 

By the way the 80 is a great boat as an entry to high performance sailing.

 

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Thanks for the input....

So, it comes down to the 400 or 500....

Can anyone give me an idea about the boats as experienced 400 or 500 sailors?

Is the 400 really that hard to hike? and will we struggle at about 145kg, bearing in mind my weight could be positioned on the wide part of the boat?

Is the 500 quite tippy? and would it work well with the majority of the weight not able to gain much purchase from the relatively narrow hull and only 55kg dangling from the trapeze??

  

 

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I would have a look at the Laser 4000 too. Your weight combination will definitely work then.
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If you've come a mirror, topper or something like that, then 500 would be tippy, but as you haven't I doubt you would find it tippy.

55kg to light on the wire?  I'm a bit heavier at 59kg and I crew.  A lot of 500 crews are about this weight.  Sure its better to have the lard on the wire in strong winds, but if you set the boat up right you shouldn't have a problem.  In light winds you will really need to get your weight forward as water comes through the transon drainage holes.

I don't know about the 400, as I've only sailed one once.  Have another look at the V3000, its also a great boat.

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yeah you would be ok in a 500.

you would also be fine in a 400 at your weight. got the most weight in the right position as well.  I know with the 400, they carry a massive weight range. they are sailed best with heavy helms and wilght weight crews. besides you can easily tame them down and they are quite easy to sail in a force 6 even at the lighter end.  the only issue with them is hiking.........they are VERY comfortable boats to hike, and hiking them is no harder than any other boat and it gets easier the more you do it. no different to hiking in a laser, 200 (they are awful boats to hike), merlin etc. but it is still hiking.

500 has a trapeze and are lovely little boats. perhaps a tad underpowered resulting in them being sluggish in the light stuff. but give it a bit of breeze and they are quite nippy.

Both have active national fleets. I believe the 400s have a very big emphasis on training this year, with plenty of coaching days planned. The other thing the 400 has going for it is the numbers, theres close on 1000 of them kicking around, so even if you dont wanna race on the circuits, you can usually find a 400 at any club to race against. not quite the case with the 500, but they are flying off the shelves currently.

 

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